header wrap - Page 2 - Fuelly Forums

Click here to see important news regarding the aCar App

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-11-2008, 06:32 AM   #11
Site Team
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 658
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkjones96 View Post
I don't see how that would help horsepower either. Hotter air is less dense and requires more pipe area...
Lower viscosity of the exhaust gas
__________________

__________________
Think you are saving gas? Prove it by starting a Gas Log, then conduct a proper experiment.
bobc455 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 12:52 PM   #12
Registered Member
 
holypaulie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 108
Country: United States
exhaust wrap lower my temp

After upper grill block and bellypan my underhood temp went up and the best solution for me was to wrapped exhaust manifold. Works great for me without any problems
__________________

holypaulie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 08:30 AM   #13
Registered Member
 
GasSavers_RoadWarrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,652
IMO header wrap will be most effective on normally aspirated engines when the exhaust system is perfectly sized or a touch undersized. Most folks can't help themselves when getting a performance exhaust or header though and have it too large, velocity is already sub-optimal, and wrapping the header will have marginal gains. On a correctly sized exhaust, which may include many stock exhausts, I think it will be more noticeable. However stock exhaust systems can be under or oversized too. Wrapping might help an undersized one on the low end quite a bit, but it will do practically nothing for an oversized one until it's bouncing off the rev limiter.

When the exhaust system is tuned perfectly, the momentum of the exhaust gases provides a small amount of suction just before exhaust valve closing, that helps extraction, may provide a small amount of positive effort to the piston (depends on timing) and with valve overlap, can kick start the movement of the intake charge, which is sitting static just as the intake valve opens. Result less parasitic loss.

So, what you're hoping for with wrapping is to keep velocity high in the header and downpipe, not allowing flow stalls due to cooling.

The way I'm thinking right now, I believe that short of a custom header, the piping sizes are about right on Marvin, but his exhaust ports need a little restriction... on Wile-E... the exhaust ports and cast header are cavernous, twice the size they need to be, but the rest of the system is a touch undersized, it could do with being 2" all the way back, but it's only 1 7/8 or 1 3/4. Might need 2 1/4. I will have to see how much effect high compression modifications and porting makes. I'd like to get Wile-E a stock '90 or earlier escort GT header, needs some modification though. Anyway, plan to wrap things up for Marvin when the "new" motor goes in, and assess Wile-E's needs when I see how the mods run.

Being a cheapskate, I'm probably just gonna buy generic woven glass tape, not the same stuff priced up as header wrap.
__________________
I remember The RoadWarrior..To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time..the world was powered by the black fuel & the desert sprouted great cities..Gone now, swept away..two mighty warrior tribes went to war & touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing..thundering machines sputtered & stopped..Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice
GasSavers_RoadWarrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 03:34 PM   #14
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2
Country: United States
Update

Just a quick update. After coating the entire exhaust ( stock setup ) I have gained an average of 2 mpg. www.performancekote.com More to come
performancekote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #15
Registered Member
 
GasSavers_SD26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 529
Country: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by performancekote View Post
Just a quick update. After coating the entire exhaust ( stock setup ) I have gained an average of 2 mpg. www.performancekote.com More to come
Please post your gas log info...
__________________
Dave
GasSavers_SD26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 08:35 PM   #16
Registered Member
 
suspendedhatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 445
Country: United States
Send a message via AIM to suspendedhatch
If you can imagine cold air on the intake side improving power, then you should be able to imagine the same thing for hot air on the exhaust side. In theory, you want the exhaust to stay hot all the way out. The same way you want a turbo to get hot. But in practice it's highly unlikely that it's enough to make any noticeable difference to either power or fuel economy.

I had a large section of my exhaust wrapped on my previous Civic in order to try to reduce the noise. Didn't work for that either.
__________________

__________________

Civic VX, D15Z7, 5 Speed LSD, AEM EMS, AEM UEGO, AEM Twin Fire, Distributor-less, Waste Spark
suspendedhatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can't delete fill ups posted by a friend. missmaispace Fuelly Web Support and Community News 4 08-18-2014 09:18 PM
wont let me enter a fuel up :( Joloke Fuelly Web Support and Community News 4 10-29-2009 06:19 AM
Cam regrinds for Atkinson cycle? omgwtfbyobbq General Fuel Topics 14 07-11-2007 06:03 AM
Honda 2005 1.8L i-VTEC 88HF General Fuel Topics 4 07-09-2007 05:40 PM
Noob trying to save in gas! GasSavers_Bigfoot Introduce Yourself - New member Welcome 1 05-31-2007 12:17 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.