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baddog671 06-17-2007 10:07 AM

I would like to choose all of them but I thought money was the best choice. Obviously most of us are creating more effiecent cars to lighten the burden of filling the tank. It sometimes amazes me to think how ineffiecent America is and how its not only impacting the individuals, but the nation and world. When you sit down and add up exactly how much money you put into your transportation, its shocking. All this money is going to the big oil monopoly and hindering our government. Who benefits from this? Not the common man just trying to get to work to provide for his family, but the multi-million dollar yupp who hasn't a care in the world. Saving money for the average person boost moral and economy.

Personally I think we should tell the Middle East to go to hell and tighten our bonds with Mexico. Mexico and Mexicans are not a "problem", but a situation looked over in the wrong way. They want jobs, we want cheaper fuel. Can't we work this out? We should develop drilling processes in that HUGE reserve found in the ocean down there. Mexico was a large oil processer until the 70's (I think it was) when the bottom dropped out of the business. Imagine that, oil? failed business?


Meh, but I also think reduced emissions and conservation is important. The number 1 way to save gas is to not drive.

I don't really brag much but if I ever get something worthy of bragging, I'll try it..

And lastly, pushing the limit. I think there's something in us as humans that make us want to do that. It's like a personal vendetta against big oil to see what I can get, and when I find my max, do better. I have plans in my head of in the future how I want to build a practical car that gets insane mpg that I cant do now becuase of money!/schooling/family/know-how/tools/other hobbies..

Just my .02

landspeed 06-17-2007 01:42 PM

My main reason is the environment, although money of course plays a factor with our stupidly high petrol prices!

LxMike 06-17-2007 02:30 PM

Since we can only choose one i picked money cause at first was my main reasong when gas priced got above $3 a gal. now it's more a combo of all of the above.

1 even though i'm not at top of any list i can still go a month before refilling. i hardly drive much except to work and maybe town once in a 2 week period.

2 i want to do my part to help.

3 it's fun!

4. nobody beleives me when i tell them the mpg i get. not earth shattering compared with some here....

diamondlarry 06-17-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LxMike (Post 58900)
Since we can only choose one i picked money cause at first was my main reasong when gas priced got above $3 a gal. now it's more a combo of all of the above.

1 even though i'm not at top of any list i can still go a month before refilling. i hardly drive much except to work and maybe town once in a 2 week period.

2 i want to do my part to help.

3 it's fun!

4. nobody beleives me when i tell them the mpg i get. not earth shattering compared with some here....

Just keep in mind that you should only be competing against yourself since everyone's commute/traffic patterns are different.

bowtieguy 05-02-2009 06:18 PM

i'm a little suprised that saving money scored so high especially back when this site had a distinct left lean.

GasSavers_JoeBob 05-02-2009 08:14 PM

Even us liberals like getting the best value for our money.

JanGeo 05-03-2009 04:30 PM

What got me the other day was a commercial for the Bankrupt Chrysler - would you buy a vehicle from a company going bankrupt and the woman's reply was "we always buy jeeps and we love them" . . . well doesn't that just raise the carbon footprint for that family!

I recently got my inspection sticker for my xB and was hoping to see the emmissions levels of CO and CO2 on the report but it seems all they do now is plug into the ODB2 port and scan for CELL code - no errors then you pass . . . what a rip for $39!!!

theholycow 05-03-2009 04:56 PM

Where did you get your inspection done? The last one I got included all the emissions paperwork and I assume they ran it on the dyno with the sensor in the tailpipe.

JanGeo 05-03-2009 05:46 PM

Toyota of Newport and I asked the body shop manager why there was no emmissions and he said new car they don't do it that way . . . go figure.

dletm08 05-06-2009 07:40 AM

I do it to save money. I do it to conserve resources. I do it to compete against myself, or anyone else willing to compete with me. Unfortunately I do not know anyone who is interested.

guest001 05-09-2009 09:05 AM

of course not spending as much at the pumps is a plus. but everything about it, the mods, driving techniques, the theory; as it pertains to cars in general ( which I'm already fascinated by).

ecofarmer 05-09-2009 10:33 AM

I?ll tell it like it is I?m a cheap and it?s fun to pull up to SUV and full up and take off before they get done. My kids think it?s funny to push me to see what my MPG will be when I?m pumping gas.

I also feel that it?s my way to pay fewer taxes. When I see someone smoking or drinking I thank them for paying the extra taxes for me that I don?t want to pay.

Ford Man 05-09-2009 06:04 PM

I had to be honest.
(1) It's mostly for the money I can save.
(2) I want to see the oil company profits lowered, because people are using less.
(3) Is the impact that we are all having on the environment and the economy.
(4) I like telling people I've averaged nearly 44 MPG over the last year and nearly 20K miles in a 21 year old car with nearly 1/2 a million miles on it.
(5) I like the challenge of trying to get better MPG, and teaching my 18 year old son how to get better mileage.

opelgt73 05-10-2009 06:13 PM

Two things.

1. I've always wanted a CRX and why not get the HF version if I'm going to get one?
2. Money - I used to have a Denali which I loved, I could tow my trailers, haul all kinds of stuff around and it was very comfortable. However I went from a 4 mile commute to work (and company reimbursed gas allowance) to no fuel allowance and a 50mi commute each way. Since the CRX has become my daily driver I sold the Denali and picked up a 1ton full size diesel van for when I need to haul stuff. One of these days I want to convert it to veggie oil.....

Even as gas prices have come way down I STILL prefer to drive the CRX over my BMW. There is something addictive about getting awesome MPG.

GasSavers_Scott 05-12-2009 05:20 AM

Addicted to peace and efficiency
 
Im long winded and will talk forever, no honey I'm not cheating on you, Im really standing in front of the shop chin wagging with my friends, so here goes. Ever since discovering Gas Savers I have found peace while driving, Im competative as hell and love to race, alittle Auto Cross and SCCA stuff, If I had the time and money I would do it for a living. Now the problem I had was turning off the kill switch, I used to drive on the street like I did on the track, the balance of adheasion, engine torque curves, all that stuff. I love stat charts and would generate power curve charts on my computer to chart my power flow looking for the line of perfect power and efficiency. Now all this generated allot of stress, especially when you have a 9 to 5 commute and you imagine yourself in a Le Mans car blasting down the Nurburgring at 240, thank you Walter Mitty.

Now enter Gas Savers and my use of efficiency in racing has been ftransformed to efficency in mileage. I like to do the P&G thing, much like throttle steering in a car around a corner, it gives that flying an air plane feel, your balancing all your controls and feeling the engines responce, its allot of fun. Perhaps the greatest gift is the relaxation, Im not checking my mirrors every 3 seconds looking for cops from behind me, or parked along the side of the road, or watching every entering vehicle on an on ramp to see if they may be an unmarked highway patrol. It's great, I cruise now and after doing MPG research with the Solstice' MPG commputer I have found that my mileage threashold is below 70 MPH, so I'll set my cruise control to 68 and just enjoy the ride. I draft semi's, hang out in the slow lane or next to the slow lane and come back from a drive relaxed.

Now I dont know what it is but I have been into the efficiency thing my whole life, when I was younger I needed a car that got great gas mileage, because I was broke. As I got older I feel into the mash the peddle mentality of driving to work, but I always tinkered with the car and sometimes by accident I would do mods to a car that would generate better mileage. Different things in life and situations dictated the car I drove. I had a Ford Explorer that got terrible mileage, then I put the right tires on it, fixed the thermostat, tweaked some other stuff and got 26 Hwy. I also had a 57 Chevy with a 396 and after allot of mods got 18 MPG out of it. Little triumphs, but then the Volkswages I have had are listed at 26 mpg and I would always coax 31 to 34 mpg out of a bug with mods.

I love to drive, my current job involves allot of driving to new locations every month as a fraud investigator, my new job will have me working in the municipal water field with a company truck, so I will have a goal of getting a 3/4 ton work truck to get good mpg, eventhough the company pays for the gas. One job I had driving I did burn out on was cross country truck driving, I did it for a year and a half and it burned me out, its like you never reach the finish line.

Now on to evil oil, in less than 100 years we have gone from horses, ships, and trains, to cars and planes. We love out computers (If it woulden't be for Gas Savers and the internet, we would be looking in the back of Popular Mechanics for fuel aerators, instead of forming a like minded MPG community here on the web.) our phones take pictures, hop on the web, play music, and show us movies. We are a culture that is plugged in now and we pay for that priviledge of evolution. Ever since a cave man traded an animal skin for food, there has always been a motive for profit. Much like the latest stock market crash, people in power and people trying to make a millon have looked for the next new thing. This oil thing has been big and ridiculously profitable for years, it has now grown into a monster and pure and simple greed has made us pollute the planet, change politics to support governments to feed wallets and hold back new technology, so vested governemts can run the oil profit machine until the very last drop.

Look at GM, they will sell SUV's until people stop buying them, until people can't afford to put gas in them. Its greed directed business, its not whats best for the world, but what is most profitable. Big oil runs governments and this mamoth is running out of money, all those lobbyists, executives, and people in suits and mansions have to figure out a way to keep business running, while the giant is dieing.

The environment has taken so many hits, we have pushed our garbage away so far to the point where we are having it pushed back by the next guy who is pushing away his garbage. There is even land fill excavators who are putting together companys to dig through land fills that are 20 years old to havest the plastic. In the center of all our oceans are huge pools of swirling plastic bags, the fish are eating them, their stomach acids are breaking down the plastic and the petro chemicles digested are giving the fish cancer. I used to love Salmon, I make it with dill weed, 5 island pepper, and garlic, its one of my favoites, but now the Salmon polulation from fertilizer run off and plastic bag digestion are rampant with liver cancer. Hell one of my favorite fishes I dont eat anymore.

Is there a bright side to all of this, yes, the world machine has to adapt to keep profitable, green efficient everything, that fantasy Star Trek existence of zero pollution energy will have to be invented, without it we'll eat ourselves. Driving efficiently has given me great peace and knowing that one by one were helping the Earth and its people advance to become a better place. That is why I seek higher gas mileage, its a mentality and lifestyle.

Oh yes, filter your water, most tap water systems just make the minimum in keeping you from getting bacteria. All that pesticide run off, PCB's, and cancer causing agents cant be filtered out by conventional tap water systems.

theholycow 05-12-2009 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 134373)
In the center of all our oceans are huge pools of swirling plastic bags, the fish are eating them, their stomach acids are breaking down the plastic and the petro chemicles digested are giving the fish cancer.

Maybe cancerous bag-eating fish oil will be our next energy source... :D

JanGeo 05-12-2009 06:10 AM

Yeah I am not sure of the 0.12 gph idle burn rate yet as I have not filled the tank a second time and adjusted the fill amount factor since the upgrade but my engine once warmed up will drop down to a 680rpm idle and get really quiet and at that point it is 0.12gph - turn on the lights and it goes up to 0.15gph so you can see the load from the alternator. Gives me an idea to connect an external charger to off load more of the alternator and see if I can get the fuel rate even lower. Then it may be time for a grid or solar charged second battery and charging circuit . . . electric power hybrid!!
What is wild on the two decimal places for ScanGauge fuel is just how sensitive the gas pedal is . . . I can make the 0.01 digit move one at a time and it really is a light touch on the pedal to do it.

Wyldesoul 05-12-2009 08:04 PM

For me, it's a fun way that I can modify and drive my car for a challenge, since horsepower is something that can so easily get you into trouble... But if you tweak and carefully drive your car for fuel milage, it's a way I can obsess and focus my energy, and save money, too!

I'm not obsessed about being number one, I just enjoy myself.

Big oil? Nah, not angry at them. They have to buy the oil at market price, too. More annoyed at the wall-street prospectors, and I get a definite glee of sinister thinking about how many we may have bankrupted when the oil market collapsed last fall.

Definately like sticking it to OPEC, and the other foreign sources of crude, though...


And lastly (and leastly) the environment...

Well, to be blunt, I'm so sick of environmentalism being shoved down my throat I almost wish I drove a smoke belching gas guzzler just to stick it to those who feel they have to shove it down my throat...

Maybe I should remove my cat... We don't have emissions in Indiana...

Kuripot 05-19-2009 07:24 AM

It's all about the money. I put on over 26,000 miles on my Accent the first year I owned it. I couldn't care less about the environment when it comes to the amount of gas I burn. I don't believe climate change is caused by burning fossil fuels.

bowtieguy 05-19-2009 11:53 AM

^^^ :thumbup:

SpeedKnight 05-19-2009 05:47 PM

Yeah, it's all about the money, for me.

I commute 84 miles per day. If I were actually getting the 19MPG rating that the EPA gave my VW GTi, I'd be using up almost 4.5 gallons per day. At current prices ($2.13/gal as of this afternoon, for me), that's nearly $10 per day. Multiply that by 5 days of work for 4 weeks and I'd be paying out $200 per month getting back and forth to work. As it stands now, though, I'm roughly averaging 27MPG. That's 3.1 gallans per day, or $6.60 per day. In 4 weeks, that's $132 per month. I'm saving about $68/month by hypermiling.

The fact that I don't forgo things like windows down and sunroof open on beautiful days while still travelling at 60+MPH or that I still actually do 60+MPH speeds, I think that getting almost 45% above my cars EPA FE rating is amazing. I find it to be rather fulfilling to push this envelope.


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