[QUOTE=repete86;58269]I don't consider cost to be an issue when discussing the fate of the world.
hes gota point there |
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Nation?s Nuke Plants Still Not Secure, New Gov?t Report Finds April 7, 2005 https://www.hstoday.us/Kimery_Report/...port_Finds.cfm GAO Finds Nuclear Power Plants' Accounting of Spent Nuclear Fuel Deficient, Poorly Regulated April 12, 2005 https://www.hstoday.us/Kimery_Report/..._Regulated.cfm Slammer worm crashed Ohio nuke plant network Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2003-08-19 https://www.securityfocus.com/news/6767 Chernobyl on the Hudson?: The Health and Economic Impacts of a Terrorist Attack at the Indian Point Nuclear Plant Edwin S. Lyman, PhD, Union of Concerned Scientists, September 2004 https://www.ucsusa.org/global_securit...wer-plant.html Here is one that presents your argument : (Nuclear Power Plant) SECURITY https://www.nmcco.com/education/facts...y/security.htm CarloSW2 |
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The Rocky Mountain Institute sees the solution to our problems through technology, but favors some over others. For instance, RMI wants to have a hydrogen/fuel cell future. Some would say that's bonkers, but they have a "game plan" that is pretty interesting to read. You may notice that I cite RMI alot because they try to marry pro-environment and pro-economic interests. They are looking for win-win solutions. CarloSW2 |
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I appreciate you concern for the environment, but in all honesty, you're dramatizing something that isn't there. In case you were unaware, one of the primary objectives of the Tennessee Valley Authority was to prevent flooding which had previously been a huge problem. Alongside that, it provided needed jobs and helped to power a section of the country which was in the dark for the many years before its existence. It comes at a cost, as all things do, but the cost is minimal. Solar and wind power are highly unfesible. Have you even taken geographics into account? How many places actually receive sufficient sunlight or wind to actually sustain a power grid? Not many. The fields required for such a power plant would be massive. Now certainly it has its promise, but it is simply promise. It is not a logical solution at the present time. It's all well and great that you're taking the initiative to cut your power bill. I would prefer not to suffer from heat stroke, so I intend to run the central air at a comfortable 73 degrees. People can chage their consumption habits, but why would they want to? We have been given so many things by technology and science that have made our lives easier. It would be foolish to ignore all of those advances and essentially "go back in time" so that we can conserve. Science has to account for its advances by also improving upon power and its collection. Until a better method of power distribution is found, it would be foolish to expect people to give up the modern comforts which have we have been afforded. |
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Bubba Bob- The World Nuclear Association is a lobbying group representing the nuclear industry. Don't you think that it would be in their favor to hand pick or distort results in the same way King Coal and Big Oil do? |
And exactly whom would you rather me look at? Greenpeace?
Actually, I guess you would... |
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For the "why change" argument, here's how I think about it:
It's like a credit card. You can use it well as long as you don't overspend and pay it back in time. But, if you start overspending and can't pay it back, you end up paying interest and becoming mired in debt. At this point you can't get anything new until you pay back your inflated debt and you end up worse off than if you just spent moderately and didn't get into debt at all. In a worse case scenario you don't pay it back at all and the repo person comes and takes all your stuff. Now, you say I don't want to change, but I think it's obvious at this point we're overspending our environmental capital and pretty soon we're going to end up putting all our effort into paying it back. Don't be so damn lazy and just let it happen. |
Great analogy.
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