Originally Posted by Matt Timion (Post 42871)

Let it be known...

We will be switching to the new standard, but it will not be enforced until I have programmed a viable way to select these values from the EPA database. It will probably take me an afternoon of coding to get it done. The next few days will be a sort of limbo I guess.

When the switch is official, I will be removing EVERYONE's EPA values from the garage. This is because there is no way for me to know who changed their values to the new ones. I will also send an email to everyone reminding them to enter the new EPA values.

Originally Posted by skewbe (Post 42886)

Matt, your life would be made easier if you add a manual/auto transmission indicator to the garage entries..

Originally Posted by CO ZX2 (Post 42884)

I did research the reasons EPA cited as above. What does this have to do with researching whether other FE sites are changing or not? Or whether these are truly official EPA ratings?

Did you read the rest of my reply??

Originally Posted by CO ZX2 (Post 42879)

Matt, I believe we are getting sucked in on this one. These are not the official EPA numbers at this time. These are not the ratings shown when you go the standard EPA fuel economy site. I believe the car manufacturers have put pressure on EPA to change the older car ratings. Why else would they change them?

My thought is that when car buyers start thinking and talking of gas mileage, invariably the mention of "what happened to the Geos rated at 58 MPG, what happened to the 50+ MPG Hondas" comes up. "Why don't they have better MPG cars now instead of worse?" If the new estimates do become official ratings, people won't even be able to find the original ratings for the good mileage rated cars they thought they remembered.

Just what the car manufacturers would like, (the mushroom syndrome: They keep you in the dark and they feed you only crap).

I have not researched but comments I have read would lead me to believe that other FE sites have much reservation about this issue. I just hope that the decision to change at Gassavers will not diminish the excellent esteem that the GS site enjoys. And the members along with it.

Originally Posted by rh77 (Post 42890)

I read your full post, but from my dealings with other FE sites, I'm not concerned with how they're handling the situation; I'm more concerned how GasSavers plans to handle it with its current setup.

Also, I'm not sure which sites you have referenced in this discussion, nor how they have planned to deal with the changes. There are concerns presented throughout this thread that need to be managed from this site's perspective.

I see GasSavers as a leader and not a follower, when compared to other "FE Sites". Granted we should learn of others mistakes and/or from our History, but I haven't been convinced of either in this discussion.

Please enlighten.

RH77

Originally Posted by CO ZX2 (Post 42924)

Hitler and Napoleon also thought they were leaders. Recently Sirius Radio thought they were being leaders when they hired Howard Stern. Now they are all down the tube. So are Sirius stockholders.

EPA. Like it or not for many years EPA has been the accepted universal standard for MPG ratings and the comparison for measurement of improvement. There is no viable replacement for EPA ratings. GS is about to change to comparisons that are NOT official EPA ratings at this time and may never be so. I am not very sure how onlookers will view this. It may be damaging to our credibility. I hope not, but hope never got me much gas mileage.

Originally Posted by skewbe (Post 42930)

*sigh* fellas, please, this is about what shows up on a report after the raw mpg top 10 report and what shows up on the in-house signature if you choose to use it, got nothing to do with hitler, or much else for that matter!

since hitler has been mentioned I invoking godwins law and declaring this thread officially terminated :)

Originally Posted by skewbe (Post 42930)

*sigh* fellas, please, this is about what shows up on a report after the raw mpg top 10 report and what shows up on the in-house signature if you choose to use it, got nothing to do with hitler, or much else for that matter!

since hitler has been mentioned I am invoking godwins law and declaring this thread officially terminated :)