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09-07-2007 02:54 PM |
trebuchet03 -
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Originally Posted by trebuchet03
(Post 71247)
Firstly, France has a ban on data collected based on ethnicity or religion...
But since we're using unofficial data sets.... A majority of the Muslim population in France are not citizens (dealing the same same problems the US non citizens have to deal with) - additionally, "second generation immigrants" must apply for citizenship at adulthood (a requirement being competent in speaking French). But ask France how many Arabic people reside in France -- they can't tell you and numbers range from 1.5-4.5+ million.
And finally, the Arabic unemployment that are citizens residing in France.... 5.2% -- but really, I hate statistics as they can be tweaked to suite you needs. Especially unofficial.
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Ok, this is what I thought but was not sure of. From my POV, the Muslims in Europe are similar to the Hispanics in and of the USA, aka a cheap labor force. In Europe, some of them are not "citizens" and in our case, some of them are illegal. From what I understand, the Muslins were brought to Europe after WWII to help post-war reconstruction, but are no longer needed in the same numbers as in the past.
Would you agree with this analogy? Do you think the Muslims of Europe would identify with our now-defunct/infamous Sombrero guest-worker program? From the few Europeans I have spoken with, the analogy breaks down when we consider that our cheap labor force is of the same "mainstream religion" as the USA, while the Muslims in Europe are (obviously) not.
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Some translated excerpts... "All the citizens, being equal, are equally admissible to all dignities, places, and employments, according to their capacity and without distinction other than that of their virtues and of their talents." - Article VI
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Since some of the Muslims are not citizens, aren't all bets off in terms of how they are treated?
CarloSW2
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