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"I am trying to built a hydrogen booster and tested out various configurations i.e. Aaron, Smack etc. In all the tests i have observed that if we try to increase the gas production then the temperature of the water goes up very fast and gets stable at 70-71 deg celsius. (158F) But the most unfortunate thing is that at this temperature the quantum of steam generated by the booster is pretty high. I tried to burn the gas (vapour coming out from container) but it did not explode." My theory, at least, is that when pushed with too many amps ( too high of a current density > amps / sq ") the temp right where the gas forms might reach a high enough level to make water vapor or steam. Since the gas tends to form on points and edges...with certain cell designs this might happen sooner than later? Could be this effect causes a runaway cell? This might explain part of the high efficiencies claimed for the closed cell series type cells...where there are no sharp edges or points...just crosshatching and a relatively large surface area...which would make gas production distribute evenly across the full surface area? So you could be measuring lots of gas output...but it might not burn. The FACT that he is seeing stable temps of 158F means to me that these cells are reaching some kind of threshold...which might be where they are just making vapor or steam instead of HHO? Meaning that they stabilize at this temp because all excess energy is going into steam? So keep cell temps below 158F? |
That pretty much proves my point that temperature is of utmost important. Your post raises questions...
How can he be getting steam below 100 degrees C? How do these guys plan to keep the cell cool with an under-the-hood installation? Trying to light the vapor directly from the generator is extremely risky. |
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I am well aware of that, but the man said "steam". In the context, (I.E. Smack booster) this would mean he is referring to the gasses leaving the generator as a stream through the bubble jar.
The concern is that the product did not burn and it seems implied that non-flammable steam is being produced. I have tried to ignite a mixture of H2 and O2 with a cigarette without success. A small balloon will ignite easily with a butane lighter. More information is needed to make any sort of conclusion to the man's statement, but my question stands... How did he get "steam" below 100 degrees C as he claims? |
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I think it takes 1500F to ignite H2? No 1040F.
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I've got 560C, and while I don't necessarily regard mythbusters as the epitome of scientific investigation, I seem to recall they were seeing an "idle" cigarette at about 400-450C and just getting up to 500ish when drawing on it, by using an infrared thermometer.
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