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skewbe 11-12-2008 06:21 AM

Ban on religious marriages?
 
Interesting backlash from the ban gay marriage stupidity anyway.

https://www.petitiononline.com/putnam/petition.html

GasSavers_BEEF 11-12-2008 06:31 AM

good luck with that one

do you ever have anything to add that has ANYTHING to do with getting better gas mileage?

theholycow 11-12-2008 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 123892)
do you ever have anything to add that has ANYTHING to do with getting better gas mileage?

I suspect you already know the answer, but...

https://www.gassavers.org/search.php?do=finduser&u=701
https://www.gassavers.org/search.php?...rchuser=skewbe

His history is not completely devoid of FE-related posts.

skewbe 11-12-2008 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 123892)
do you ever have anything to add that has ANYTHING to do with getting better gas mileage?

LOL, attack the messenger. +10 ban religious marriage :)

theholycow 11-12-2008 07:51 AM

It's not about the message. It's about the forum.

Regarding the marriage thing...I personally don't care. I'm legally married to my wife and have no interest in making religion a part of that, nor do I have interest in controlling who else gets married or why. I don't care if gays can or can't, I don't care if born-agains can or can not, I don't care if religion is part of someone else's marriage or not. I don't like the idea of the government getting involved in ANY of those questions, but I don't really care that much...I've got much bigger fish to fry. There's far more consequential things that the government needs to get out of.

What does offend me is a user who is on a fuel economy forum solely for political discussion. Perhaps BEEF agrees. You know that there are forums entirely about politcs, where you could post your occasional FE-related thought along with your constant poltical stuff, right? In such a place, you could bicker about politics with others who also want to bicker about politics.

BTW, your heavy concentration on politics is a religion. According to Random House dictionary, here's a couple definitions of religion:
Quote:

- a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
- something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience
You should keep that out of government and marriage.

GasSavers_BEEF 11-12-2008 08:39 AM

I assumed that since the election was over that all of this would stop. I was wrong. I guess it is an ongoing thing for some people.

it also seems that the only time that religion is a target is in the political arena.

on a side note: my mileage is suckling due to lower temps. I am planning on redoing my WAI with a larger piece of aluminum but have not found the time.

dkjones96 11-12-2008 02:43 PM

Who cares.

GasSavers_BIBI 11-12-2008 03:18 PM

nobody

GasSavers_SD26 11-13-2008 12:24 AM

Anymore, government is a religion of it's own. Bad deal as that's where we should be free of it.

Mayhim 11-13-2008 05:07 AM

Banning religious marraige would save fuel from all the people that won't be going to churches to be a part of them. Also, there wouldn't be honeymoons taken that would eat up fuel.

Otherwise, +another about Skewbe & his stirring-up.

Jay2TheRescue 11-13-2008 05:35 AM

How about this: since the election is over, we initiate a ban on political threads? I put up with it before, thinking it would be over soon but I guess I was wrong.

There are many other places to post political threads...

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...olitical+forum

The following from the search results looks promising...

https://www.arguewitheveryone.com/

Snax 11-13-2008 07:48 PM

But is 'marriage' political? Is it religious? Is it technically a violation of The Constitution of The United States to officially recognize it if it is a religious union? The defense of marriage crowd is pushing for a showdown on this that they are going to lose because we know the answer to the latter two questions is yes.

I would suggest that marriage constitutes a civil union, and the Supreme Court will likely end up making the same connection, rendering argument one way or the other moot - and specifically avoiding a declaration of marriage as a religious institution to avoid the unwanted quagmire that would create.

Jay2TheRescue 11-13-2008 08:02 PM

Marriage itself isn't political, but when you have the voters decide on who may get married, and under what circumstances then that makes it political.

-Jay

Lug_Nut 11-14-2008 04:09 PM

The courts are saying that a justice of the peace or other government agencies that can perform legal unions of two people can't prevent that union based on gender.
No one is saying, or ever said, that the widely accepted "mainstream" religions have to perform ceremonies for those that do not ascribe to that religion's tenets. If a church's definition of a union requires one from each gender, then those are their rules. Don't like 'em? Go to city hall.
The church is a substitute acting on behalf of the state to perform the ceremony. The state issues marriage licenses, the state may require blood tests, the state may require infectious disease tests before allowing any legal union. What's the big deal with having the state complete the work they start?


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