Stupid drivers
 

I rest my case.
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Her car(she made a left in front of me without looking).
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My car. (front-end collision at ~45mph and my airbags did NOT deploy, go Suzuki!)
Also, note the lack of crumple zones.
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The reason I couldn't even push the car out of the street with ease.

Well, so much for the 2 months of data logging I'd done for the HHO testing.

My neck hurt pretty badly starting about 15 minutes after the crash but after about three days it's back to normal again. Other than that everyone was okay.

glad you're ok!

i'd recommend anyone that has been in a collision to see a chiropractor. with neck pain, i'd TELL a loved one.

Well, at least you won't have a 4 cylinder engine anymore.

Maybe. So far, Subaru has the only vehicle I can find that meets what i'm looking for.

Something either AWD or RWD, 25k or under WITH upgraded sound system(sound system is an absolute must) and lastly, a turbo-4 or better. I can live with another regular 4 banger if the rest of the items are there.

The Fusion can be had fully loaded for under 25k with a v6 and AWD but i don't care for the car that much. Others I'm looking at are the Mazda CX7(will have to talk the dealer down) and the Subaru Impreza 2.5i Premium.

I'd prefer a crossover or small SUV but finding what i want in anything is hard enough...

Any ideas?

**EDIT** Also, the SX4 from Suzuki is 100% out. The tracker had the same gutless 4 banger that car has and I don't think I'll ever buy another Suzuki, parts are just too hard to get and when you get them they are expensive.

Jeep Patriot AWD with upgraded sound ought to come in less than $25k, but I'm not sure if that's with the V6. The 4 banger is a respectable but not powerful 170hp. Transmission choices are CVT or 5 speed, but the 5 speed might not be available on upgraded models...

lol wondered what a rust free car looks like :P

I was in a crash a few years ago. My neck felt fine that day, but didn't hurt until the next day. Turns out I should have gone right to the hospital, I'm still going to doctors.

Have it checked out now while the injury is (sorta) fresh!

-BC

Sorry to hear about the crash- especially after all of that recent engine work. It looks like both vehicles held up pretty well for a 45 mph impact.

I have some intermittent neck problems as well after someone pulled out in front of me 2 years ago- it was a moderate speed crash too.

To my knowledge, there's not much they can do if there is only minor disk/tendon/ligament damage. The chiropractor can keep it loosened up and you can can buy a $40 battery operated muscle stimulator to relax the muscles when they start to tighten up again (the same type they use before they pop you).

Yeah, I'm just hoping that they take into account the recent engine work when totaling the car.

I went to the hospital immediately after the incident because it was already bad, but from what I'm understanding about it is soft tissue(muscle) damage hurts right away and disk, bone damage takes time. This happened on the 10th and my neck already feels back to normal. It hurt for a couple of days but nowhere near as bad as when I actually pulled the muscles in high school.

As for the car... I think I may hold out til spring. Having a $750 beater car to slide around on ice during the winter time is just toooo tempting. And if I mess up doing it i'd rather not have much money in the car lol.

They usually do - IF you have the receipts. It happened to me about 15 years ago in my Buick. I was rear-ended and the insurance co tried to total the car and give me $1,000 because it was 12 years old and had over 100,000 miles. I explained that the car had a brand new engine in it, from Buick with a 3 year, 30,000 mile warranty good at any GM dealer that I had just paid $3,000 for. I then showed them my maintenance log and reciepts for the engine, polish, car wash soap, the custom made floor mats I had just got in 2 days before I was hit that I think I paid $300 for... anyway... After looking over all of my receipts they gave me $3000 to repair the car.

-Jay

EDIT: I just saw the warranty paperwork in the Buick, my bad. It was a 3 year, 50,000 mile warranty...

Was it your car's driveshaft that came unplugged? Or the benz?

That's mine. She drove off no problem.

one idea (be it an expensive one) is a honda element.

it is all wheel drive (on demand) with a 2.4 liter V-tech engine. it gives it 160hp which may depend on year but it is peppy for a 4 banger. it is the same engine they used to use in the civic SI. obviously it isn't anywhere near as fast as the civic because of the size and gearing but it gives you pretty good power and I have personally gotten 26 mpg in my wife's element.

and on top of all that, it is a honda. that is a big reason that I got it. hers is an '04 and has over 100K miles on it already. no issues so far other than some bulbs that are blown.

V-tech, huh?
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I didn't realize they had gotten into the automotive industry.

In all seriousness though, that 2.4 liter engine is a K24-series engine. The Civic Si uses a K20. Yes, they're the same engine family, but the K20 is a 2.0 liter engine, and puts out just shy of 200 hp. The Element's K24 is set up for torque, the Civic's K20 is set up for power.

I was actually referring to my 2004 one that did have the same engine (at least the same output) the newer SIs have 197hp but the old ones had right around the 160 mark. they didn't start the 197hp versions until the SIs got heavy. now the SIs weigh over 3K lbs.

even so, the 160hp is more than adequate for that vehicle.

*edit* you are correct about the 2.0 liter vs the 2.4 and the fact that the element has more torque but they both had 160hp

https://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...11/208664.html

it got to me so I had to look it up. one of the big selling features of the element was the improved gas mileage because of the 4 banger vs a V6. I still wondered about the power until someone said that it had the same power as the SI (bought mine in '04 so it had the same) I test drove one and I must say it is nice. It won't win any races or stomp anything from a stoplight but it is peppy. I ended up buying the one I test drove.

The '02-05 Si was regarded by many enthusiasts as a pig. Curb weight creep together with the switch to strut-based suspension made the handling less than sporty. The variety of VTEC they used in it's K20 variant is a slightly updated version of VTEC-E. The increase in displacement gave it a bigger, flatter torque curve, but since it made no more power than the '99-00 Si, and was a good 150 lbs heavier, it actually accelerates slower than the previous generation.
The late model Si has the same bore, stroke and block design as the '02-05, yet uses a different cylinder head with a performance-VTEC implementation, letting it make 40 more HP than it's predecessor.
As for curb weight, the '02-05 Si hatch checks in at 2,740 lbs, the '06+ Si comes in at 2,886 lbs for the coupe, and 2,945 lbs for the sedan. In spite of the increase in weight and similar suspension, newer Si's reduced height, wider and longer wheel base, increased power and 6-speed transmission brought it back more in line with the Si lineage.

back to my point though.

the element, having 160hp and roughly that much torque, makes for a pretty descent SUV as far as the get-up-and-go aspect.

it isn't cheap and I think they hold their value pretty well to if you are thinking used.

Damage tallied up to 11k, cars totaled.

I didn't actually see it but they said the force that pushed back on the drive shaft when the engine rebounded wrecked the rear suspension of the car and the front-end is ruined.

Funny, the pictures don't really look that bad...

And I've gotta comment on one thing. The amount of snail mail spam I've been getting from chiropractic offices and attorneys is ridiculous.

An attorney is probably not a bad idea.