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Sludgy 05-26-2010 09:46 AM

Suzuki DR200SE
 
Suzuki is one of the few bike mfrs who publishes fuel economy. This bike seems to be their champ:

https://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%...9/DR200SE.aspx

At 105 mpg, this beats all of the FE leaders on the gassavers home page, even the Cheap Chinese Scoot. Anybody have actual data from this bike?

Project84 05-26-2010 11:06 AM

Couldn't get your link to load but I did a quick search and read a review about it from 2009.

Seems like a great dual sport bike if that's what you're in need of.

I'd think the price is high at $4k (couldn't find '10 prices... is it more than that now?) for what you get though; 200cc's, 5sp instead of 6, rear drum instead of rear disc. Mileage is way up there which makes me wonder why they didn't put a 6sp on it and bump it even further? :confused:

Pull the trigger on one and lead the motorcycle MPG section... we'll all be jealous. Plus you can go off road!!

cat0020 05-26-2010 11:52 AM

I have a feeling that fuel consumption have more to do with the operator (load weight) and the way the vehicle is being operated than published numbers.
IMO, I see aerodynamic is poor on that vehicle, maybe chugging at 2000 rpm in top gear will get you 105mpg, but I doubt it..

alvaro84 05-26-2010 08:40 PM

I think this bike would hate 2000 rpm - I have a single cylinder too, and she pings like crazy at such low rpms in anything but 1st gear... in top gear she needs ~2800 to be able to acclerate with a very mild throttle without a complaint.

I'd like to try one of these bikes. Or, at least, read a test. A test written by someone mileage-conscious...

edit. how does 'kickstart only' like these low rpms? That one looks the best match out of your stable :)

cat0020 05-27-2010 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvaro84 (Post 151438)
I think this bike would hate 2000 rpm - I have a single cylinder too, and she pings like crazy at such low rpms in anything but 1st gear... in top gear she needs ~2800 to be able to acclerate with a very mild throttle without a complaint.

I'd like to try one of these bikes. Or, at least, read a test. A test written by someone mileage-conscious...

edit. how does 'kickstart only' like these low rpms? That one looks the best match out of your stable :)

Hate it or not, the method is not mean for traveling along traffic, but to acheive triple digit mpg without putting some giant firing that offer better aerodynamics.

oengus 07-08-2010 06:30 AM

The DR200 are also sold as XP200 and XF200 through a manufacturer called Jinan Qingqi.
Qingqi is licensed to use Suzuki technology in its bikes, they offer a couple of nice versions of the DR200.

The XP200 and XF200 are sold in the US through a company called Qlink. Basically the bikes are mechanically nearly identical to the DR200.

They are priced much lower and have a two year warranty.
Qlink XP200
https://www.devinneymotors.com/images/57_12%5B1%5D.jpg
Suzuki DR200
https://img.alibaba.com/photo/1054679...motorcycle.jpg

The Qlink version is actually nicer and add features, like a tachometer and shift indicator...inverted forks, LED taillight. They also offer a motard version...made more for the street with street tires.
https://www.devinneymotors.com/images/46_2.jpg

So if your looking to get on two wheels and save on gas and still have some fun these are real good options.

oengus 07-08-2010 08:08 AM

Dual sports are not for everyone?.so they modify the bikes with different tires and rims that is called a motard or an acronym for motocross/standard. Its a modified dual sport leaning to the street side.

That basic style bike can also be made more street like, and that appeals to more people or different tastes.
Here is a street version of basically the same bike.

https://www.disuperbikes.co.uk/images.../RSR%20125.jpg

These are all made in china by company called Jinan Qingqi and are well made bikes and are being sold all over the globe. They do this through what is referred to as an OEM that?s an original equipment manufacturer , they offer branding, the result is lots of brands but the company behind them is the source.

Qlink is taping into that, but not offering the street versions only the dual sports. I think that is because people are not aware of the bikes. That bike above could be offered in the USA for under or around $2,500.00 and a 250cc version for under $3,000.00.

They are using Suzuki engines under license, so they are basically Suzuki bikes. The technology is pretty basic stuff and has been around for some time.

You have to support those that are doing it correctly, they are offering real good quality products at an affordable price. The more they are supported and encourged they then can grow and offer more products.

here is another Qingqi sold in England as a Sinnis brand.
https://sinnismotorcycles.com/images/...60/8-right.jpg
they come with the same 199cc engine that the DR200 has, it is the exact same engine. That same bike can also have the same engine the TU250 has and is being manufactured in china today and sold all over the globe.

The reason we do not have these is because? If Qlink is supported and encouraged to import these they will and then we can have them as choice for urban commuting. They are prefect for that.

oengus 07-08-2010 08:21 AM

This is a 250 version?.I get frustrated that we are not getting access to these bikes.
https://aokmotorcycles.net/images/stealth.jpg

Qingqi has and is building bikes that have the 199cc DR200 engine, Qlink is offering only the Dual Sports in the USA. For some reason they are not importing the sport version to the USA and it may be that too many people are telling them that Americans would not buy them! To many are telling each other they are not well made or making up reasons not to consider them, People that are what guessing?

I want a 250cc version of that bike and for under $3,000.00, I know the costs of manufacturing in china and importing as well, that bike could be offered for $2,800.00 and should be.

oengus 07-08-2010 08:25 AM

Send Qlink an email ask them to expand their offerings of Qingqi models.
Particularly the sport bikes and in both 200 and 250cc versions.

Project84 07-08-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oengus (Post 152907)
This is a 250 version?.I get frustrated that we are not getting access to these bikes.
https://aokmotorcycles.net/images/stealth.jpg

That bike is sexy for how small it is! I'd commute on that thing at least 7 or 8 months out of the year.


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