Suzuki DR200SE
 

Suzuki is one of the few bike mfrs who publishes fuel economy. This bike seems to be their champ:

https://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%...9/DR200SE.aspx

At 105 mpg, this beats all of the FE leaders on the gassavers home page, even the Cheap Chinese Scoot. Anybody have actual data from this bike?

Couldn't get your link to load but I did a quick search and read a review about it from 2009.

Seems like a great dual sport bike if that's what you're in need of.

I'd think the price is high at $4k (couldn't find '10 prices... is it more than that now?) for what you get though; 200cc's, 5sp instead of 6, rear drum instead of rear disc. Mileage is way up there which makes me wonder why they didn't put a 6sp on it and bump it even further? :confused:

Pull the trigger on one and lead the motorcycle MPG section... we'll all be jealous. Plus you can go off road!!

I have a feeling that fuel consumption have more to do with the operator (load weight) and the way the vehicle is being operated than published numbers.
IMO, I see aerodynamic is poor on that vehicle, maybe chugging at 2000 rpm in top gear will get you 105mpg, but I doubt it..

I think this bike would hate 2000 rpm - I have a single cylinder too, and she pings like crazy at such low rpms in anything but 1st gear... in top gear she needs ~2800 to be able to acclerate with a very mild throttle without a complaint.

I'd like to try one of these bikes. Or, at least, read a test. A test written by someone mileage-conscious...

edit. how does 'kickstart only' like these low rpms? That one looks the best match out of your stable :)

Hate it or not, the method is not mean for traveling along traffic, but to acheive triple digit mpg without putting some giant firing that offer better aerodynamics.

The DR200 are also sold as XP200 and XF200 through a manufacturer called Jinan Qingqi.
Qingqi is licensed to use Suzuki technology in its bikes, they offer a couple of nice versions of the DR200.

The XP200 and XF200 are sold in the US through a company called Qlink. Basically the bikes are mechanically nearly identical to the DR200.

They are priced much lower and have a two year warranty.
Qlink XP200
https://www.devinneymotors.com/images/57_12%5B1%5D.jpg
Suzuki DR200
https://img.alibaba.com/photo/1054679...motorcycle.jpg

The Qlink version is actually nicer and add features, like a tachometer and shift indicator...inverted forks, LED taillight. They also offer a motard version...made more for the street with street tires.
https://www.devinneymotors.com/images/46_2.jpg

So if your looking to get on two wheels and save on gas and still have some fun these are real good options.

Dual sports are not for everyone?.so they modify the bikes with different tires and rims that is called a motard or an acronym for motocross/standard. Its a modified dual sport leaning to the street side.

That basic style bike can also be made more street like, and that appeals to more people or different tastes.
Here is a street version of basically the same bike.

https://www.disuperbikes.co.uk/images.../RSR%20125.jpg

These are all made in china by company called Jinan Qingqi and are well made bikes and are being sold all over the globe. They do this through what is referred to as an OEM that?s an original equipment manufacturer , they offer branding, the result is lots of brands but the company behind them is the source.

Qlink is taping into that, but not offering the street versions only the dual sports. I think that is because people are not aware of the bikes. That bike above could be offered in the USA for under or around $2,500.00 and a 250cc version for under $3,000.00.

They are using Suzuki engines under license, so they are basically Suzuki bikes. The technology is pretty basic stuff and has been around for some time.

You have to support those that are doing it correctly, they are offering real good quality products at an affordable price. The more they are supported and encourged they then can grow and offer more products.

here is another Qingqi sold in England as a Sinnis brand.
https://sinnismotorcycles.com/images/...60/8-right.jpg
they come with the same 199cc engine that the DR200 has, it is the exact same engine. That same bike can also have the same engine the TU250 has and is being manufactured in china today and sold all over the globe.

The reason we do not have these is because? If Qlink is supported and encouraged to import these they will and then we can have them as choice for urban commuting. They are prefect for that.

This is a 250 version?.I get frustrated that we are not getting access to these bikes.
https://aokmotorcycles.net/images/stealth.jpg

Qingqi has and is building bikes that have the 199cc DR200 engine, Qlink is offering only the Dual Sports in the USA. For some reason they are not importing the sport version to the USA and it may be that too many people are telling them that Americans would not buy them! To many are telling each other they are not well made or making up reasons not to consider them, People that are what guessing?

I want a 250cc version of that bike and for under $3,000.00, I know the costs of manufacturing in china and importing as well, that bike could be offered for $2,800.00 and should be.

Send Qlink an email ask them to expand their offerings of Qingqi models.
Particularly the sport bikes and in both 200 and 250cc versions.

That bike is sexy for how small it is! I'd commute on that thing at least 7 or 8 months out of the year.

The bike has nearly the same wheel base as a Ninja 250 at around 55 inches.
It comes with 17? rims front and back, The bike has a 31? seat height about the same as the Ninja 250.
The Ninja weighs 375lbs the Qingqi bike weighs 364 lbs with a 200cc engine.

The bike is about the same size as a Kawasaki ninja 250 and would have nearly identical performance to a Suzuki DR200 Enduro.

Qingqi has the 250 Suzuki engine that engine has more power then the 200cc and would be more appealing to many with a 20hp which in my opinion is about perfect for an urban commuter bike.

There is an issue though the 250cc bike would cost more, the 200cc bikes are selling in Europe around $2,700.00 American a 250cc in the states would cost likely over $3,000.00 and that takes it to close to the prices of Japanese entry level bikes.

Here is the thing you really do not need a 200cc and a 125cc has top speed usually of around 50mph and with much better mileage, the European are riding 125cc bikes all day long.

Getting there cheaper and using less fuel?.with a personal sense of style.

This little bike is being sold in the UK and it made by Qinqqi and with a Suzuki engine. They are sold in the UK under the Sinnis brand name.

https://www.sinnismotorcycles.com/ima...0/11-right.jpg

hi folks new member here i am seriously considering getting one of those suzukis this spring..i tried one of those chinese bikes and it was horrible the electrical system was popping headlights and tail lights like crazy!..so this time around i want to get a quality japanese bike the dr200se model year 2013..
it cost $4200 brand new with super low financing it is claimed to get about 80mpg on the highway (but a 200cc motorcycle isnt going to fast for too long)i basically need it for a four mile ride to work and some errands around town(whatever could fit in a backpack).

if i get this bike i will post the real world mileage (my guess is around 70mpg).

$4200 is a lot of money for 200cc motorcycle, you can easily find a used Ninja 250 for less than half of that, with time tested reliability.

Speaking of Chinese product, I have had my 250cc Chinese scooter since march of 2008, I've only experienced flat tires, burned fuses and stuck trip meter, no other issued. I've put more than 11,000 miles on the Chinese scooter, still gets over 80 mpg regularly.

i'm glad your scooter is working out for you,i just got burned with my chinese "experience" and i won't be going back to it.hey have fun.

Regarding the OP: if you plan on using it daily for commuting then yea, it might be worth it. If it's more of an occasional thing I'd hold off. I'd say run some numbers and figure out how long it'd take to pay back in gained MPG. I'm all for bikes but it largely comes to a cost-benefit issue...at least it would for me...I can't see myself enjoying that thing too much. My VX800 might only get half the mpg but it can do it going 70+ driving hard. that's just me though, I live in a medium size town (45000 pop) with plenty of space outside town. If you just plan on riding in urban spaces, my 800cc bike would be wasted since it'll do 55 in 1st and be there in no time flat.

Yes, aerodynamics play a HUGE part in bikes because they're so bad. I've heard Cd of .80 mentioned for unfaired bikes and I know from experience the difference between sitting up and leaning forward just a little is huge. But again, depends on how you'll be using the bike. If you do all urban riding and never get over 40, it's a moot point...mostly.

My father in law got a chinese bike 2 or 3 years ago. a Johnny Pag cruiser, basically a Honda Rebel knockoff. It's garbage.
-tire valve core was loose when he got it.
-vibrates like a mofo (in a bad, poorly balanced engine sort of way)
-Broke the main rear engine mount bolt at <500 miles. a grade 5 replacement (first available while riding) lasted longer, and a grade 8 hasn't broken since.
-Primary side wiring fell off the coils.
-side cover fell off while riding (luckily rebel covers fit (and better))
-no oil filter
-with under 2k miles on it, both brakes are nonexistant. Using either bottoms out the control lever without engaging the wheel caliper. We've both gone over the brakes, even took the calipers apart (nasty nasty sludge in the fronts because the hose attaches to the top and so does the bleeder). Now it's stuck because the master cylinders don't move the slave cylinders enough to stay extended to move the pads closer to the disks.

i hear you k980 in regards to chinese bikes,just too many issues with vibrations shaking things apart for my taste.