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diamondlarry 12-27-2005 09:57 PM

"Magic Pill" for gas mileage?
 
Here is something I just found out about. They sound a bit pricey at $1.50/pill and a minimum order of 50 pills plus shipping. It is an interesting idea though.
https://www.savefueldollarsnow.com/ccindex.html

SVOboy 12-27-2005 10:27 PM

Seems fishy how they have
 
Seems fishy how they have pills, so the proportions could not be divided up terribly well. And we know from things like acetone and pib that proportions are extremely important, but it's just like, 1 pill up to 14, 2 pills 15-28. Well damn, there's some serious fluctuation in there.

diamondlarry 12-28-2005 05:02 AM

Amazing how stuff like this
 
Amazing how stuff like this comes out of the woodwork when gas prices rise. ;-)

diamondlarry 03-24-2006 01:26 PM

I have an update to the Gas
 
I have an update to the Gas Pill thing. Below is a post I found on the pes_acetone site. Sounds like they aren't so good after all. Who would of thunk it?

Quote:

--- In pes_acetone@yahoogroups.com, "jef4ers" <ramj@...> wrote:
>
> I have to date not found any fuel additive that will overcome the
> ethanol disadvantage. Some have indicated that the so called Bio
> Performance Pill will substantially restore even alky fuel quality.
>
> Maybe Sterling can help us here. One of his sites now sell it.
>
>

Jef,

This Bio Performance stuff is a real farce. Just to be the guinea
pig, I bought a sample and used it as prescribed in my TDi Golf
(diesel). These are the results and other relevant points I can pass
along from my experience, just so noone else gets burned. Mine was
purchased in powder form from purchased on one of the dealer sites.

1) Over the course of the four tankfuls they require, my total
mileage actually DROPPPED significantly.
2) The dealer admitted he had no REAL idea how or why the product
works, and neither does BPI. There is no tech support from
BioPerformance (the company) which is merely a marketing firm.
3) They came up with convenient excuses as to why it did not work in
my particular car at this time of year. They sent me an analysis of
diesel fuel properties by a "noted chemist" that purported to show
why I would get a negative result in winter. The author of said
analysis was anonymous, and conveniently requested to remain so. I
question the analysis because in it he says that biodiesel is alcohol
and that B20 is a mixture of 80% petro-diesel and 20% alcohol. If
this guy doesn't even know what biodiesel is or how it is made, I
seriously doubt he knows anything about any fuels whatsoever, let
alone how or why the product does or does not work.
4) One of the main components of the product is Naptha. They call it
Camphor on the MSDS sheet, but the physical property numbers match
Napthalene, not camphor. This probably means the MSDS sheet is at
best in error, or at worst falsified. It reeks of mothballs. My guess
is that this is simply an elaborate scam to get people to pay gobs of
money for crushed mothballs. Adding napthaline mothballs to fuel is
an old trick used for decades to boost performance.
5) According to the MSDS sheet, the manufacturer is a company in
Mexico City. I checked, and the company they gave is a Mexican
marketing company whose US affiliate is, you guessed it, BPI (Bio
Performance Inc.) Hence, the manufacturer is unknown (this is also
probably a violation of the MSDS sheet, but I'm not sure)
6) Finally, and notably, they do not stand behind their product. If
it doesn't work for you, oh well, you don't get your money back. So
sorry, you're hosed.

Feel free to pass this along and post them on any other additive and
mileage sites you are aware of. Sterling has already posted this for
me elsewhere.

F.



SVOboy 03-24-2006 01:33 PM

Debunking is always fun, but
 
Debunking is always fun, but there is something so sad about it too, :(

n0rt0npr0 03-24-2006 04:27 PM

haha!
 
Like I said in another area on here, I have one of these to test in my mower experiment. If it doesn't work for the carburated mower, I think I can safely say it definately won't do jack to the FI auto engine. I'm kind of excited to get around to it, ya know?


rh77 03-24-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Debunking is always fun, but
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Debunking is always fun, but there is something so sad about it too, :(

Yeah, it instills the "Fear of Hope".

My prediction: the whole pyramid of disinformation will come crashing down on this one.

RH77 :-)

SVOboy 03-24-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:My prediction: the
 
Quote:

My prediction: the whole pyramid of disinformation will come crashing down on this one.
Man, misdinformation is the best. Ignorance is strength, after all.

krousdb 03-24-2006 04:52 PM

Re: Quote:My prediction: the
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Man, misdinformation is the best. Ignorance is strength, after all.

Ignorance is bliss.

I should know. :)

SVOboy 03-24-2006 04:55 PM

I'm poking my references at
 
I'm poking my references at 1984: A Space Doubleodyssey.


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