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Draigflag 04-22-2014 11:08 PM

Class leading pickup truck
 
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A mate of mine has recently purchased an Isuzu DMAX for his work. I'm pretty impressed with the Class leading towing capacity, and economy. It can tow 3.5 tonnes which is (7700 lbs approx) but can still return almost 40 MPG too, although he's currently getting 36 MPG.

Just thought i'd put a recommendation here for someone looking for tough reliable truck that can tow a fair amount and still get good economy!

https://isuzu.co.uk/the-range/blade/blade-overview/

trollbait 04-23-2014 04:51 AM

Isuzu is no longer in the US, but their i-series pick-up was a rebadged Colorado. So the new Colorado and this are likely the same.

theholycow 04-23-2014 07:50 AM

I'm turned off of Isuzu. Even if it was offered here I wouldn't want it. My wife's Isuzu Rode was poorly built with shoddy materials and bad engineering. Isuzu kept issuing recalls (probably forced by the NHTSA) but NOT honoring them. Even if they have improved I would not be ready to trust them.

If it is indeed a badge-engineered GM, which is pretty likely, I'd still be hesitant...not only will it be subject to Isuzu's post-sale service and support, but as much as I'm a GM fan I think they've been slipping in the past few years.

Draigflag 04-23-2014 08:17 AM

I understand, GM marks especialy Vaxhauls in the UK are very popular, and yet utterly unreliable too. At least you get a 5 year 100,000 mile warranty with them!

Jay2TheRescue 04-23-2014 08:40 AM

How is it that GM can build rock solid reliable trucks for the US market, but not the UK market?

trollbait 04-23-2014 10:54 AM

It doesn't appear that the American full size trucks are offered in the UK.
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Originally Posted by theholycow (Post 175571)
If it is indeed a badge-engineered GM, which is pretty likely, I'd still be hesitant...not only will it be subject to Isuzu's post-sale service and support, but as much as I'm a GM fan I think they've been slipping in the past few years.

In the US you would only be dealing with a Chevy or GMC dealer. Isuzu has been gone for quite some time now.

In what ways do you think GM is slipping? I think my 2013 Sonic is better than my old 2006 HHR was.

theholycow 04-23-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by trollbait (Post 175585)
In what ways do you think GM is slipping? I think my 2013 Sonic is better than my old 2006 HHR was.

In trucks, not so much in cars. Reading descriptions of problems plaguing recent GM trucks, I get a general feeling that they have suffered at least as much as they have improved, compared to the types and frequencies of failures/deficiencies/etc common to GM trucks 15 years ago. I can't say I know whose I like better though. Lately I've become really disillusioned with the whole segment.*

As far as I can tell, GM's small cars like the Sonic are not only great, but seem to be standing tall amongst their competition.

*: Perhaps I'm just becoming too cynical; I think every web browser stinks now, and I suspect that every computer manufacturer is pretty bad too. These are not good things since I work in IT.

Jay2TheRescue 04-23-2014 11:36 AM

I understand in the full size segment, but I'd think that the reliability of an S10 could be equaled in a European model.

Draigflag 04-23-2014 12:57 PM

Generally US cars are considered a bit of a joke when you compare them to the stuff the rest of the World is building. Cars built for the US market seem reliable to Americans, but in reality, a huge engine that barely ticks above 1500 RPM, cruising up and down a highway with very few twists and turns every day, I think even the cheapest cars can withstand that. Now look at the rest of the World, narrow streets packed with cars that bump into each other all the time, tiny engines that require hard revving, hills, hairpins, jumps, potholes, unmade dirt roads, harsh weather conditions etc, our cars work much harder and have to go through a lot more on a daily basis.

As an example, I saw some tyres for sale in the US guaranteed to last 80,000 miles, I recently had to change my tyres after just 3500 miles. It gives an idea of the mechanical stresses and work loads our little cars are put through. I know a few people that have imported American cars, and in al honesty, they tend to rust and fall apart here much quicker.

In the UK each year we have the JD Power survey, it rates cars and manufactures based on customer satisfaction. Last year, the results showed that the top 13 manufactures were British, Japanese and German. Chevrolet came last with the spark being voted the worse car on sale. Vauxhall (GM) came 22 out of 27 Manufactures. Results are here:

https://www.whatcar.com/car-news/full-results/1206903

trollbait 04-23-2014 01:07 PM

Jay- On the Chevy UK site, there were no trucks. Just a couple of crossovers. The Vauxhall site was the same except for a couple of commercial vans. This Isuzu might be the only GM truck they get.

THC- My friend has a 2005 GMC pick up and sections of the dash have been going out. Seems that was a problem in the past. But....it is an extra vehicle, rarely driven, and is still on the original battery.

GM has gotten a black eye with the ignition recall, but another recent recall was because people were ignoring the air bag idiot light. "You mean the air bags might not work with that light on. Didn't know." They could have handled the first better, but the second is an over reaction because they fumbled the first.

Draigflag 04-23-2014 10:54 PM

The majority of pick ups sold here are Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford and a few VW too. All diesel powered of course, gas powered trucks, vans or any commercial vehicle are non existent.

JAS21 05-07-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theholycow (Post 175571)
I'm turned off of Isuzu. Even if it was offered here I wouldn't want it. My wife's Isuzu Rode was poorly built with shoddy materials and bad engineering. Isuzu kept issuing recalls (probably forced by the NHTSA) but NOT honoring them. Even if they have improved I would not be ready to trust them.

If it is indeed a badge-engineered GM, which is pretty likely, I'd still be hesitant...not only will it be subject to Isuzu's post-sale service and support, but as much as I'm a GM fan I think they've been slipping in the past few years.

Here in Thailand the Isuzu is a real winner ... I have the 3Ltr 4*4 called the V-Cross (Auto 5-speed). Now over 40K Kms in two years and no problems at all.

The fuel consumption has been pretty good, getting 16-18K/Ltr on a run, mind you that's driving at about 80-85Km/Hr.

I've recently blanked the EGR and although it is much smoother and quicker in the 800-2000rpm range it seems to be using more fuel. A lot of the last tankful was in Bangkok traffic and only I got 12.4Km/Ltr .

I have just changed from Shell Fuel Save Diesel to Shell V Power Nitro Diesel (this costs here just under 33Baht/Ltr). Fuel Save is just under 30 Baht/Ltr. Also I have just changed the oil to Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel For Pickups 5W-40. Will see how things go.

By the way the Colorado has a different engine and also a different Auto Gearbox (it's 6 speed)

trollbait 05-08-2014 04:55 AM

We will be getting a 2.5L diesel with the new one coming out in the fall here.

Draigflag 05-08-2014 08:33 AM

Lets hope it has the manual transmision so at least you have a chance of getting decent fuel economy.

papajack 06-16-2014 06:02 AM

Why is it you can't get a truck with a small diesel? Most people do not need to pull a house, but would like the MPG.

TK428 10-20-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by papajack (Post 176717)
Why is it you can't get a truck with a small diesel? Most people do not need to pull a house, but would like the MPG.

You can, you just have to live somewhere that is not the USA - Ford in Australia offer a 2.2L Diesel Ranger: https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ra...s/spec-options
Or you could but the 2.2L Mahindra from India - https://www.mahindra.com.au/auto/en_A...specifications

And in the UK, Ford offer the 2.2L Transit. But the old days of small utes in the 90's have gone.

JAS21 10-20-2014 07:50 PM

If you lived in Bangkok you wouldn't want a manual, unless you are a masochist! I bought the Isuzu V-Cross 3Ltr 4*4 Auto (in 2012)to use instead of a car. A 520d, which I previously had here is the UK equivalent of 100,000GBP. The truck was equivalent of 20,000GPB and the view from up there is really good and it takes potholes in it's stride.

Since blanking the EGR I don't get a good fuel consumption but it feels much nicer in the up to 2000ish rev range. Prior to blanking I could get 20Km/Ltr if I drove at about 80Km/hr.

No problems in 45000Kms ... well made ... reasonable ride ... am considering removing a leaf from the rear springs to soften it further.


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