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bigjosh 06-22-2014 08:02 AM

Export to Fuelly.com
 
I purchased aCar yesterday, awesome program. I also purchased some gas, entered it into aCar and when I got home last night I tried an "export" so i can import into Fuelly.com.

That didn't go so well...I received a 500 error. I then looked at exported CSV and it is SO not in the format fuelly requires...

Any work around? or am I missing something?

Looking forward to syncing directly with fuelly.

Thanks for all the hard work!

Josh

Gwystyl 07-30-2014 12:44 AM

You have to manually edit the exported .csv from aCar to meet the guidelines from fuelly.com which are mentioned here: https://www.fuelly.com/csv-import

What I've tried (but I didn't succeed yet):
- export all fillups from aCar to .csv format and store it on Dropbox
- open the csv on my PC in Microsoft Excel
- strip all unneccesary lines (Metadata, Vehicles, Service Records, Expense records, Trip records)
- sort fill-ups by vehicle
- copy all fill-ups from one vehicle to a new worksheet
- juggle around with all collumns to meet the fuelly csv import guidelines
- change collumn titles when necessary
- rename all No's and Yes's in the Partial Fill-up collumn to 0 and 1
- remove useless collumns
- add a collumn with title "km" (because I only have odometer readings)
- check all formatting --> make sure there are no comma's or semicolons as decimal dividers or comments, change date format, currency format
- save the worksheet to csv (DOS)
- load the edited csv by clicking https://badges.fuelly.com/images/icon...w_columns2.png in the car detail page on fuelly.com

So far I only got the error
Quote:

Your car has odometer tracking set, but no odometer heading in your CSV file.
but I think this should be the way to go. It takes some time, but it's less time-consuming than manually re-entering all fill-ups on fuelly.com

Ubejani 08-01-2014 04:21 AM

So Fuelly.com owns aCar but the csv format that aCar produces can't be used by Fuelly.com without major editing? I think someone needs to pull their thumbs out... and get this sorted!?

Gwystyl 08-01-2014 04:24 AM

Basically yes. They acquired aCar only recently, so maybe an update in aCar or the website will make this process a little easier in the future.

I've e-mailed my aCar csv to one of the developers so he could take a look at the format and try to simplify export from aCar to Fuelly.com

Ubejani 08-01-2014 04:36 AM

After much editing I finally got to a format that Fuelly would accept, but it is ridiculous that aCar exports a format that Fuelly can't use and Fuelly can't accept a format that aCar exports!

This is what worked for me, I had to turn this:

"Vehicle","Date","Time","Odometer Reading","Distance Unit","Volume","Volume Unit","Price per Unit","Total Cost","Payment","Partial Fill-Up?","Previously Missed Fill-Ups?","Fuel Efficiency","Fuel Efficiency Unit","Fuel Type","Has Fuel Additive?","Fuel Additive Name","Fuel Brand","Fueling Station Address","Latitude","Longitude","Driving Mode","City Driving Percentage","Highway Driving Percentage","Average Speed","Tags","Notes"
"Renault ","30-04-2014","09:25 AM","134,417","km","46.850","L","R14.160","R663.40 ","Card","No","No","0.000","L/100","Gasoline - Premium (93)","No","","","","-26.149746","28.134921","Normal","50","50","","",""

into this

Fuelup_Date,Odometer,km,Litres,,Price
30-04-2014,134417,km,46.85,L,14.160


(The double comma on the first line is important.)

Gwystyl 08-01-2014 04:43 AM

In my first reply in this topic I mentioned I got an error regarding the odometer setting. Looks like the order of columns is not so important, but I don't see what would go wrong in my csv. I got this:
Quote:

odometer,litres,price,city_percentage,fuelup_date, tags,notes,missed_fuelup,partial_fuelup
208065,58.880,1.38,25,11-7-2014,,Auto 1127.0 km / 58.1 l / 5.1 l/100km / 73,4 km/h,0,0
Which didn't work. I'll try to add the column km and add km to each line. I thought you should use either odometer (with the odometer reading in the collumn "odometer") or trip (with the trip reading in the collumn "km")

Too bad I just finished manually typing over all my fillups by hand :(

Ubejani 08-01-2014 04:51 AM

It seems "km" must be in the headings and can be in the data as ,km, or just ,,

I've been using PSPad (fancy notepad) and it's search & replace function to fix many of the errors

Gwystyl 08-01-2014 04:54 AM

I followed your format for another car I've owned in the past and of which I had fuelups stored on spritmonitor.de. This is an example of the csv after editing:

Quote:

Fuelup_Date,Odometer,km,Litres,,Price
01.03.2010,313503,km,63.55,,1.069
01.04.2009,263861,km,65.23,,0.919
This worked without problems :)

Ubejani 08-01-2014 04:56 AM

Cool, I really hope they're going to sort this out soon, it's a real pain to have to do so much editing.

Gwystyl 08-01-2014 05:08 AM

I agree. Importing the fuelups from spritmonitor was a lot easier than those of aCar, but I really liked all features in aCar. Most of them get lost when you import the fillups with the layout we used now. Lets hope those features will be added again in the future :)

RobertV 08-01-2014 07:25 AM

Sorry for the delay, just to follow up, I reviewed the CSV file that was sent to me and even test-uploaded it without any issue on my end.

I have the team trying to track down why it's not going smoothly on your end.

Will report back as soon as we have an answer.

Thank you for your patience!

Gwystyl 08-01-2014 08:20 AM

No worries, I suppose this isn't your day job, so time can be a ***** :).

As I replied on the previous page, I managed to import it myself too. The things I changed compared to the csv file I sent you is adding a collumn "km" and filling it with the word "km" on every line, and adding a blank collumn before "price", based on the tips of Ubejani. I don't know which one did the trick, but the combination seems to work anyway.
When I look at the example-csv, neither is there, so I'm still not sure why it worked now, but it did.

Could the formatting be an issue? I saved as csv from Excel. I tried
CSV (Comma delimited) and CSV (DOS), but neither worked at first.
Also when I edited with Notepad++ and saved it didn't work. I'm not sure if encoding was ANSI or UTF8, or if that is even an issue with csv files.

freddie 08-07-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwystyl (Post 178148)
In my first reply in this topic I mentioned I got an error regarding the odometer setting. Looks like the order of columns is not so important, but I don't see what would go wrong in my csv. I got this:
Quote:

odometer,litres,price,city_percentage,fuelup_date, tags,notes,missed_fuelup,partial_fuelup
208065,58.880,1.38,25,11-7-2014,,Auto 1127.0 km / 58.1 l / 5.1 l/100km / 73,4 km/h,0,0
Which didn't work. I'll try to add the column km and add km to each line. I thought you should use either odometer (with the odometer reading in the collumn "odometer") or trip (with the trip reading in the collumn "km")

Too bad I just finished manually typing over all my fillups by hand :(

This specific example won't import because you have "73,4" in the note field. That comma signals a new field. That entire note field needs to be enclosed in quotes so that comma is not seen as the start of a new field. Did the exported file not have the note field in quotes?

Gwystyl 08-07-2014 12:12 PM

@freddie: yeah I realised that at some point, so I changed all numbers which contained , to . (before also 58.1 l was 58,1 l etc.. I might have missed some commas....
The exported file looks a bit like this:

Quote:

Fill-Up Records
"Vehicle","Date","Time","Odometer Reading","Distance Unit","Volume","Volume Unit","Price per Unit","Total Cost","Payment","Partial Fill-Up?","Previously Missed Fill-Ups?","Fuel Efficiency","Fuel Efficiency Unit","Fuel Type","Has Fuel Additive?","Fuel Additive Name","Fuel Brand","Fueling Station Address","Latitude","Longitude","Driving Mode","City Driving Percentage","Highway Driving Percentage","Average Speed","Tags","Notes"
"VFR","13-07-2014","12:31","77.456","km","15,940","L","€1,663", "€26,51","","No","No","14,429","km/L","","No","","Shell","Snelweg Belgie","","","Normal","5","95","","","Heenweg vakantie, 229,7km"
"SV650","13-07-2014","12:27","26.113","km","11,750","L","€1,663", "€19,54","","No","No","18,553","km/L","","No","","Shell","Snelweg Belgie","","","Normal","5","95","","","Heenweg vakantie"
"VFR","12-07-2014","18:30","77.226","km","21,570","L","€1,699", "€36,65","","No","Yes","0,000","km/L","","No","","Amigo","Anklaarseweg 121c, Apeldoorn","","","Normal","50","50","","","Tanken net voor vakantie"
"SV650","12-07-2014","18:29","25.895","km","10,530","L","€1,714", "€18,05","","No","No","14,340","km/L","","No","","Tinq","Matenpoort 11, Apeldoorn","52.204881","5.984665","Normal","50","5 0","","","Tanken net voor vakantie"
"Laguna","11-07-2014","15:18","208.065","km","58,880","L","€1,384" ,"€81,49","","No","No","19,158","km/L","","No","","TinQ","Arnhemseweg 221, Apeldoorn","52.195493","5.9624","Normal","25","75" ,"","","Auto 1127,0 km ; 58,1 l ; 5,1 l/100km ; 73,4 km/h"
So it is in quotes like it's supposed to be. Because aCar has so many fields exported and so few can be imported in Fuelly, it took some creative reading and editing in the csv before I was able to import it.

Apparantly something I did was the right trigger, because I succeeded eventually to import my exports (see my previous post in this topic). After this worked, I reformatted the exports from spritmonitor.de following the same logic, and that worked too. In both cases, I didn't use the notes field so I don't know if the , in my previous csv would have been an issue or not.

19kFX4 09-26-2014 06:10 PM

To much to do just to import wow

Crf450r420 09-28-2014 09:27 AM

Long time aCar user and will one day be a contributing member of these site when I can upload all more old data without any work.

TobynVivian 10-24-2014 01:38 AM

I'm with Crf450r420. I look to computers (and that computer called a phone) to be labor savers. Let me know when my aCar app will work with Fuelly without a degree in computer science and the time it takes to apply it.

lyon_o 11-04-2014 04:09 PM

any news about the easy way to import from acar? tx

Boothby171 11-22-2014 08:13 PM

I'm just going to wait for FUELLY and aCar to "be on the same page"

Fuelly is nice, but I LOVE aCar! Can't wait until they...blend.

Crf450r420 01-17-2015 06:00 PM

Hope no one was holding their breath. Looks like we will be monitoring all electric cars before the app uploads to the site right.

Gonx 01-27-2015 05:02 AM

No way I was able to load the data which are many, via CSV. Not with the example put. All that remains is to put one to one data.

mikechally 04-20-2015 09:29 PM

Has the issue with syncing data to and from acar/fuely been resolved?

Pontiac 04-23-2015 05:14 AM

Mike, they're not working on aCar at the moment. They're working on the iOS app first to get it up to par (apparently it was a wreck of a software package?) and then they'll work on aCar.

Myself, I'm going to write a web app that'll do the conversion. I'll release it, make the source code publicly available, and usable. I've got the weekend to do this, and this smells like just a few hours worth of work. I just need to find a cheap web host since I don't want thousands of you people hitting my home server. ;)

Crf450r420 10-20-2015 08:22 PM

still waiting

Ubejani 12-01-2016 07:54 AM

Still waiting...

Those electric cars are here...

Crf450r420 12-01-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubejani (Post 191935)
Still waiting...

Those electric cars are here...

Batteries will likely take the next leap forward before they update this app. Sad as it could be good data for the site, but not like it's a business of theirs. :lol:

Could make adding important details easier, such as noting when I'm towing so my fuel mileage doesn't suck, just doing more work per mile. If the Ford and Toyota members don't tow and the Chevy and Ram guys do it would look like those don't don't get good mileage as the site has no way to show the difference. :(

Strojki 12-29-2016 01:12 AM

I also wonder is this option ever going to be fixed. I bought aCar app, and migration to Fuelly might be a interesting solution. But I do not understand why do they do not make this migration easy...

Shame...

EMY92 12-29-2016 08:20 AM

We are in the early testing phase of aCar 5.0. This version will be able to sync to Fuelly. It will also be able to sync with a family member using Gas Cubby.

This will also make switching to/from iOS and Android very easy for users to accomplish. The user will simply have to login to Fuelly and the data will sync with the app on their device.


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