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Matt Timion 03-03-2006 07:37 PM

Which chart do you like better?
 
Which chart do you like better? And why?

The first one shows all MPG values from 0 to above your max value. It is what is currently on your garage screen if you use the gaslog.

Example:

[img]/chart.php?vehicle=327[/img]

The other option zooms in a bit based on your values. It does not display a graph for areas in which you do not have an extry. IOW, if my lowest gas mileage stat is 21.5 MPG, the chart will start at 20MPG.

Example:

[img]/chart3.php?vehicle=327[/img]

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More examples:

[img]/chart.php?vehicle=328[/img]
[img]/chart3.php?vehicle=328[/img]

[img]/chart.php?vehicle=400[/img]
[img]/chart3.php?vehicle=400[/img]

[img]/chart.php?vehicle=508[/img]
[img]/chart3.php?vehicle=508[/img]

SVOboy 03-03-2006 07:47 PM

No love for me this time? I
 
No love for me this time?

I like the second option.

Matt Timion 03-03-2006 07:49 PM

Re: No love for me this time?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
No love for me this time?

I like the second option.

:)

[img]/chart.php?vehicle=360[/img]
[img]/chart3.php?vehicle=360[/img]

kickflipjr 03-03-2006 08:47 PM

^ I like the one on top.
 
^
I like the one on top. With 0 at the bottom.

Compaq888 03-03-2006 09:00 PM

I like the ones with the 0.
 
I like the ones with the 0. Also can you make the green bar stand out more?? The red line kinda gets in the way because it's our fill ups. But it's not as important as the green line. So can the green line be twice as fat and be on top of the red, not the bottom of it.

MetroMPG 03-03-2006 09:33 PM

i like the zoom (2nd) ones.
 
i like the zoom (2nd) ones. it exaggerates what's going on and makes it easier to separate out the different lines.

the more consistent a driver is, the harder it will be to read the graph that starts from 0 (less vertical movement; more line overlap).

the only reason i could see for starting from 0 is if you were going to compare graphs for more than one vehicle side by side. but we're not.

also, the zoom version would let you put in intermediate horiz. reference lines (e.g. every 1 or 5 mpg) so you could eyeball datapoint values more accurately/easily.

Matt Timion 03-03-2006 09:44 PM

Re: i like the zoom (2nd) ones.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG
i like the zoom (2nd) ones. it exaggerates what's going on and makes it easier to separate out the different lines.

the more consistent a driver is, the harder it will be to read the graph that starts from 0 (less vertical movement; more line overlap).

the only reason i could see for starting from 0 is if you were going to compare graphs for more than one vehicle side by side. but we're not.

Good insight. I would urge everyone else to please explain WHY you like the chart. Ultimately the decision is mine, but I'd like input.

Of course, I could also provide two options on your garage page. I also don't care to make it too customizable. Too many options is never fun for something this simple.

For Compaq, I need to know if anyone else shares the feeling. Should the average line be on top of the other lines? Should it be a different color than green? What about the EPA line? Is blue okay, or should it be more low-profile (grey, etc.)?

MetroMPG 03-03-2006 09:52 PM

i don't really have a
 
i don't really have a preference on the order you draw the lines (which overlaps which). same with the colours.

it was looking kind of christmas-y before with just the green and the red. not sure what to make of the blue...

krousdb 03-04-2006 01:18 AM

Sorry to make it more difficult
 
Sorry to make it more difficult, but I always prefer to see the whole picture. The zoom view exaggerates the movement, makes it more dramatic than it really is. People have a tendancy to say "wow, his mileage dropped 50% on that tank" when really it only dropped 5% because they didnt take the time to look at the scale. It's really a pet peeve of mine as they do the same thing with stock charts to exaggerate the movement.

Matt Timion 03-04-2006 09:28 AM

Re: Sorry to make it more difficult
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krousdb
Sorry to make it more difficult, but I always prefer to see the whole picture. The zoom view exaggerates the movement, makes it more dramatic than it really is. People have a tendancy to say "wow, his mileage dropped 50% on that tank" when really it only dropped 5% because they didnt take the time to look at the scale. It's really a pet peeve of mine as they do the same thing with stock charts to exaggerate the movement.

another excellent point

SVOboy 03-04-2006 09:45 AM

Mehbe you could make the
 
Mehbe you could make the chart with 0 standard for all public access and then make it an option for private view. So I'd choose the exaggerated graph, and when I looked at my garage/gaslog that's what I'd see, but everyone else would still see the standard 0 start point graph. That allows for comparisons and stuff but also personal choice.

Matt Timion 03-04-2006 09:56 AM

Re: Mehbe you could make the
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Mehbe you could make the chart with 0 standard for all public access and then make it an option for private view. So I'd choose the exaggerated graph, and when I looked at my garage/gaslog that's what I'd see, but everyone else would still see the standard 0 start point graph. That allows for comparisons and stuff but also personal choice.

This is a good alternative, however as it stands I have the two different graphs in different PHP files. I guess I COULD rewrite it so that they are both in the same file. My biggest concern is now making an update to TWO files if I ever change the graph.

More input please.

Compaq888 03-04-2006 10:16 AM

I like the new change. Where
 
I like the new change. Where the blue is the average fuel economy and the red is the fill ups. But can you make the blue line on top and make the red softer so it doesn't hit the eyes first. Remember we are focusing on the blue line. Bright colors like red, yellow and etc draw attention first.

Matt Timion 03-04-2006 12:55 PM

actually the blue line IS on
 
actually the blue line IS on top. I can make the red line a different color or even make it skinnier if that is what people want. This change, however, will take more than one person wanting it.

MetroMPG 03-04-2006 01:10 PM

and going by democratic
 
and going by democratic input, the starting-from-0 chart seems to be favoured. doesn't bother me if that's what you do - don't make it any more complicated than you have to.

Matt Timion 03-04-2006 01:15 PM

Re: and going by democratic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG
and going by democratic input, the starting-from-0 chart seems to be favoured. doesn't bother me if that's what you do - don't make it any more complicated than you have to.

I'm thinking of putting a "zoom" button under the chart as well to show the other option, but it's still up in the air.

MetroMPG, what do you think of colors, line weight, etc?

MetroMPG 03-04-2006 01:19 PM

Quote:MetroMPG, what do you
 
Quote:

MetroMPG, what do you think of colors, line weight, etc?
they look OK to me. i like the broken EPA line (but you knew that already if you look at my graphs) :)

krousdb 03-04-2006 02:12 PM

I love the blue border
 
I love the blue border around the garage page. It really causes everything inside the border to stand out. Hmmm. My graph line is purple. Thanks for making me feel special! :-)

kickflipjr 03-04-2006 06:59 PM

I like the new look. I was
 
I like the new look.

I was wondering what car you have for the "no picture provided"?

a n600 or an old civic.



SVOboy 03-04-2006 07:17 PM

I think it's an n600.
 
I think it's an n600.

Matt Timion 03-05-2006 01:52 AM

Re: I think it's an n600.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
I think it's an n600.

Yeah, it's an n600.. I'm a bit biased towards that little cute car :)


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