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krousdb 03-05-2006 11:07 AM

Dropped! My Weekend Project
 
What a PITA! But I think it was worth it. Total drop, 1.75". No measureable change in camber or toe. Drives straight, coasts well, corners much much much better, ride much bouncier.:D

Oh well, you can't have everything.:cool:

Before:
https://img455.imageshack.us/img455/1787/dcp59551nk.jpg

After:

https://img305.imageshack.us/img305/4086/dropped6ww.jpg

I have reduced my frontal area by 28 square inches! Thats gotta be worth a few MPG's!:D

Car wash, courtesy of Dawn dishwashing liquid. Waxed 6 weeks ago courtesy of McGuires.

Curent tank, 300+ miles, SuperMID says 50.9 MPG. Digital Fuel gauge says 53 MPG.

Matt Timion 03-05-2006 11:11 AM

wow, I had no idea that 1.75
 
wow, I had no idea that 1.75 inches would make such a noticable difference. Kinda makes me want to play along too and lower my ride.

SVOboy 03-05-2006 11:15 AM

Woot woot. How'd you measure
 
Woot woot. How'd you measure the toe I wonder?

You can indeed have everything, but it'll cost like 400 bucks in suspension parts.

Also, take my some pictures of your IM/TB set up!

MetroMPG 03-05-2006 12:06 PM

nice! the bumpy ride...
 
nice! the bumpy ride... that's my holdback on dropping my car.

so... reduced frontal area, less airflow going underneath the car, decreased height:length ratio, and now you can corner faster to conserve even more momentum. good work.

if/when i do it, it will be with spring clamps or a coil-ectomy via sawzall.

SVOboy 03-05-2006 12:17 PM

Don't hack up your springs,
 
Don't hack up your springs, they'll sag and do nasty stuff, y0.

MetroMPG 03-05-2006 12:27 PM

that's been debated to death
 
that's been debated to death on the teamswift site.

people are pretty evenly divided on new shorter springs vs. cut springs - a bunch of guys have cut off one coil (1 coil = about 1 inch) and say it works fine; no adverse effects (aside from worse ride, which you get with coilovers and shorter springs too).

everyone agrees that using a torch is not the way to do it though. a cutoff wheel/angle grinder is recommended.

SVOboy 03-05-2006 12:31 PM

Honda-tech is pretty
 
Honda-tech is pretty unanimously against doing it, and there're lots of horror stories about it too, even without the torch, :p

krousdb 03-05-2006 12:32 PM

Re: Woot woot. How'd you measure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVOboy
Woot woot. How'd you measure the toe I wonder?

You can indeed have everything, but it'll cost like 400 bucks in suspension parts.

Also, take my some pictures of your IM/TB set up!


I before I started, I placed the end of a tape measure in the center groove of one tire and measured to the center groove of the other tire. I measured as high as I could on each tire and still have the tape go across, about 45 degrees up from the ground. 58 1/6 inches before and after the lowering. That is as good as I can measure with what I have at home. Also, the car still drives straight and coasts very well. If there was a toe problem, the car would wander and coasting would be affected due to the tires working against each other.

I just now measured camber by standing up a 2 ft level and holding the bottom against the outermost part of the tire at the bottom. Once level, I measured from the top outermost part of the tire to the level. The difference from top to bottom was about 5/8". The diamater at the widest part of the tire is 18". So Arctangent(.625/18)= 2 degrees. So my eyeball is off. :-)

I just took some pics of the IM/TB. Let me know if you need more detail

https://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp59966eh.jpg

https://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp59950at.jpg

https://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp59941gd.jpg

https://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp59933tq.jpg

https://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp59966eh.jpg



krousdb 03-05-2006 12:39 PM

Re: that's been debated to death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG
that's been debated to death on the teamswift site.

people are pretty evenly divided on new shorter springs vs. cut springs - a bunch of guys have cut off one coil (1 coil = about 1 inch) and say it works fine; no adverse effects (aside from worse ride, which you get with coilovers and shorter springs too).

everyone agrees that using a torch is not the way to do it though. a cutoff wheel/angle grinder is recommended.

I chose the shorter springs because I wanted the option to undo what I did in case I didn't like it. The coilover set was $40 shipped. Not as cheap as cutting but these are adjustable also. I saved the OEM springs in case I want to go back to the original, less bouncy ride.

SVOboy 03-05-2006 12:40 PM

Did you measure the
 
Did you measure the difference between the front and the back of the tire?

Thanks for the pictures, checking them out now, a super close up of the fuel rail where the fuel line attachs would be good, mine sprayed massive amounts of gas upon startup.


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