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BlueRover 09-06-2016 03:28 PM

Do You know what engine you have ???
 
Looked at comparisons of similar cars to mine and found North American drivers have fuel economy nearly the same depending on city versus highway percentage.UK drivers in the same list show they have about 50% better fuel economy surpassing both the US and Canadian governments rating.

HMMMM are they better drivers? poorer emissions standards? better fuel???? Liars???

No out of 28 drivers who report driving a 2016 250 H.P turbo charged car with 9 speed transmission only 19 drivers actually have that car. 2 other non North American drivers also report they have the larger engine so I will give them the benefit of doubt.

9 Brits actually have a lower powered Diesel powered car with HP starting at 150 HP as the higher HP is not sold in the UK. :eek: 6 Brits recognized the fact that they had a Diesel engine so I hope those 6 will not be filling up with gas/petrol:lol:

For the 2015 model out of 4 drivers, 3 Brits also show driving the higher HP car as well.

I wonder how many drivers with other cars are reporting wrong engines (hope they report the correct manufacturer ) Could this be the Watergate of hypermiling:censored:

LDB 09-06-2016 03:42 PM

More and More Americans are "Common Core" products and are probably doing well and pushing the limits to know what brand car they have much less which model and especially which drivetrain.

R.I.D.E. 09-06-2016 04:31 PM

I drove my car 5 miles today, to get it state inspected. Without any block heater, started cold, drove 2.5 miles, then back home. I probably coasted with the engine off, for at least 60% of that distance, maybe as much as 75%.

65 MPG US.

Only engine available in the US Mirage is the 1.2 liter.

BlueRover 09-06-2016 04:57 PM

I wonder what the last two posts have to do with the topic????

benlovesgoddess 09-06-2016 09:08 PM

There is only one engine size for the 2016 Prius, so i know exactly which engine size i have...! Though i believe the composition of the US and UK battery packs is different, and i do wonder if that has a bearing on mpg results for each type...

BlueRover 09-06-2016 10:28 PM

Nice to know about the Prius but the it has nothing to do with the topic.

The fact is out of 18 Brits driving a Disco, 12 think they have a gas/petrol engine (not available in the UK) 6 owners understand that they have a Diesel engine so 2/3 of Brits driving a Disco and posting in fuelly don't have the basic knowledge of what they drive.

I know it always turns into a cult thing about fuel economy but it is about drivers actually understanding what they drive

Draigflag 09-06-2016 11:14 PM

Are you referring to the new Disco Sport? That does have gas/diesel options in the UK, although over 90% are diesel according to what's available on Autotrader. EDIT: Nope actually according to Land Rover, it's diesel only here. You were right.

Our fuel is different to that in North America, it burns cleaner and more efficiently, plus as it's about 300% more expensive, most people are more keen to drive carefully and save it that to play "fast and furious" at every intersection like they do in the US ;)

Our emission standards focus a lot on C02 emissions, this is directly linked to the amount of fuel burned, there are more efficient versions of engines here, Bluetech, Bluemotion, Ecotech, Puremotion etc that save a further 10-20% V's the other engines that may only be available in the US.

I've bought up the engine issue before, L3, H4 etc, it should be classed as engine size rather than layout, and gas/diesel/other fuels too. Most people know the size of their engine. Last time i checked, the VW Passat had 52 different engines listed on fuelly, there

BlueRover 09-07-2016 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draigflag (Post 190887)
Are you referring to the new Disco Sport? That does have gas/diesel options in the UK, although over 90% are diesel according to what's available on Autotrader. EDIT: Nope actually according to Land Rover, it's diesel only here. You were right.

Yes before posting I actually checked my facts and stand by my remarks that 2/3 of Brits do not know what engine they have with a Disco Sport. So on Autotrader in the UK Brits are advertising petrol engines as well?:angel:


Nothing to do with the thread but while in the UK I noticed at every light people people taking off quickly, probably because in North America a yellow/amber light means caution while in the UK it seams to mean ready set "GO" LOL North American intersections are much more calmer even in large cities at rush hour.

Draigflag 09-07-2016 09:00 AM

No the ones listed on Autotrader are "imports" so do have the petrol engine that isn't available, but they are LHD and it says in the description "for European export use only"

Well I cant really compare traffic light habits as there aren't any where I live at all, and very low volumes of traffic too. I guess it's more common in cities for people to hammer the throttle, everyone is in a rush in the city aren't they?

You're always going to find big discrepancies between the same vehicles on here, people live in different places, make different journeys, different roads, driving habits, fuels, engines and transmissions. People with the same car as me are getting 80 MPG where I'm only getting 60, there are many factors that affect fuel economy.

benlovesgoddess 09-07-2016 11:04 AM

The topic is titled "do you know what engine you have?", so to claim my answer has nothing to do with the topic is a little inaccurate.
If i started waffling on about hybrid stuff, and being vague about my cubic capacity, then you would have me bang to rights with your reply.

BlueRover 09-07-2016 12:03 PM

The first post specifically mentioned a class of car sold around the world and only some Brits seemed puzzled by the type of engine they have.

Not driving habits, only reading comprehension when filling out owner information, or reading all of a post.

Draigflag 09-07-2016 12:30 PM

Chillax man, there are no rules about going off topic, it happens in every thread. People bring to the table whatever they know, or are interested in ;)

benlovesgoddess 09-07-2016 12:36 PM

Ha ha ha! Dude, you mention "cars similar to yours" - so what, british cars, 4x4s, same model year, diesels? If you want to call the topic police, you better get the off topic SWAT team in this forum, we are always wandering around crossing threads....!

benlovesgoddess 09-07-2016 01:07 PM

As for amber in the UK it stands for both "go!" and stop - depending on whether it is by itself or with red.
Without wishing to go off topic, you mention we accelerate off the line over here - i don't, i try and set off smoothly to keep out of the "Power" zone.
I suspect many people do set off in far less economically minded manner though.

BlueRover 09-07-2016 05:13 PM

I guess some members have a very narrow interest range and always go back to the same topic. I apologize for trying to open fresh dialog.

Still do not know why Brits still do not know the type of engine they have.

Jay2TheRescue 09-07-2016 06:40 PM

I've always known what engine my vehicles had, but I'm a nerd like that. Some people are lucky if they know whether their car has a V6 or a 4 Cyl.

benlovesgoddess 09-07-2016 09:19 PM

Apology accepted!

Draigflag 09-08-2016 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRover (Post 190902)
I guess some members have a very narrow interest range and always go back to the same topic. I apologize for trying to open fresh dialog.

Still do not know why Brits still do not know the type of engine they have.

Maybe when they added thier vehicle to Fuelly, the 2.0 litre gas was the only option on the drop down menu, so they just used that so they could still keep track. Send them a PM and let them know ;)

LDB 09-08-2016 04:55 AM

Who puts the engine choices in/on the website? Some cars seem to have half a dozen variations of the same engine. Some seem to have very few options. Seems like it's users adding them and not all users are created equal. Combine that with some people being so completely not car people and it's not too surprising some are wrong.

SteveMak 09-08-2016 09:51 AM

Re the OP's question, yeah, I do know the engine I have -- a 3.0L V6 diesel -- however, I don't know:
  • If the identical engine was sold in Audi Q5s that have a 3.0 V6 diesel in my region (Canada, or Canada/US), for all model years
    .
  • If the identical engine was sold in Audi Q5s that have a 3.0 V6 diesel across the globe, for all model years
I am aware that North Americans are offered far fewer engine variants than the manufacturer makes, and that North Americans tend to want bigger, thirstier engines. Relatively speaking, gasoline (petrol) is cheap in the US (more expensive in Canada).

Today's fuel prices are (per liter)...

Regular unleaded in Oakville, Ontario, Canada:
CAD$0.989 = US$0.76541 = GBP 0.575659

Diesel in Oakville, Ontario, Canada:
CAD$0.879 = US$0.76541 = GBP 0.575659

Regular unleaded in Jacksonville, Florida, USA:
CAD$0.73287 = US$0.5677 = GBP 0.42655

Diesel in Jacksonville, Florida, USA:
CAD$0.81825 = US$0.63375 = GBP 0.47620

Compare that with your local fuel prices in various parts of Europe, and you'll see why Americans don't typically buy fuel-efficient engines. Mind you, they cry at the pump when fuel prices go up and they're filling that big SUV they bought when fuel prices were low.

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 11:34 AM

What about the technology when you fill in your registration for an insurance quote and it knows your model and engine size?
For me, the cubic capacity is as important as the number of cylinders and fuel type when considering the vehicle.
For instance, my last car was a 1.1 diesel, while most of the i20 diesels were the 1.4 litre. Would have been handy to filter.
Perhaps number of gears too? I remember being suprised that 1984 sub 1 litre ford fiestas had a worse economy than 1.1 petrol models - till i saw the smaller engine was married to a 4 speed box, the 1.1 to a 5 speed.
Maybe a similar result could be observed between 5 and 6 speed cars these days? According to Forza, there are even 7 speed cars these days!
The VIN number?
Reference material like What Car? list all possible spec and trim levels, plus engine info - or was it Parkers i was looking at recently?
I suppose this whole site is just for fun, be hard turning it all into forcibly correct data!
If i have strayed off topic, be sure to give me a clip around the ear.

BlueRover 09-08-2016 11:35 AM

I live in an area with highest fuel costs in North America and never cry at the pumps. Present car was bought when prices where highest and it weigh 400 Kilos more, 55 more HP and full time AWD.


The computer does limit my top speed to less than my last car so that may make hybermiling people happier:lol:

BlueRover 09-08-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue (Post 190903)
I've always known what engine my vehicles had, but I'm a nerd like that. Some people are lucky if they know whether their car has a V6 or a 4 Cyl.


No not a nerd an informed owner/ driver

BlueRover 09-08-2016 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benlovesgoddess (Post 190921)
What about the technology when you fill in your registration for an insurance quote and it knows your model and engine size?
For me, the cubic capacity is as important as the number of cylinders and fuel type when considering the vehicle.
The VIN number?
Reference material like What Car? list all possible spec and trim levels, plus engine info - or was it Parkers i was looking at recently?
I suppose this whole site is just for fun, be hard turning it all into forcibly correct data!
If i have strayed off topic, be sure to give me a clip around the ear.

Our insurances asks about model and year and personal questions like "drive to work" "retired", "pleasure use only"

What is Parker's ???????

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 11:49 AM

Parkers is an online reference for car data. I used it recently to happily discover my Prius is the fastest car with the most horses i've ever owned! As a pizza delivery boy, i ran many 1.7 and 2 litre turbo diesels, thinking them sporty. The Prius can beat all of them to 60 mph! Not that i've ever bothered, but its nice to know. Our CR-V is comparable, but thats the wifes (though i drive it most of the time).
Parkers may just be for UK and European spec though.
Maybe Wikipedia can help - it generally lists all things, maybe a link to it on the Fuelly sign up page - please check your cars correct info before creating your account, to win the chance of unending gratitude from the OCD geeks!
I prefer correct info, i remember being so confused when making my account i chose H4 instead of ths correct L3, as i visualised my engine block as a H rather than an L.
The use of L for inline i hadnt encountered before, didnt spot if it was explained.

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 11:58 AM

If i enter my registration in an insurance site, it is then tells me the car it goes with - engine size, body type, trim and spec.
I have just treated the car to a private reg, as i plan to keep her 10 + years - PR16USS (annoyingly PR11UUS etc was nowhere to be found!).
For anyone unfamiliar, we have 3 different number plates issued during the year. Up till March it is 65, then till September 16, then 66.
The middle 6 months figure coincides with the year, a second number breaks it down into a second 6 month segment.
I wish we had the US choice of vanity plates - you guys can get pretty much anything right, free of all age letter or number obstacles...?

Draigflag 09-08-2016 12:03 PM

Not quite true Ben, there are only two plates a year. 16 is between March and September 2016, then it's 66 until March next year, then 17, then 67 etc. Do you know the first two letters tell you where the car is registered, I'm assuming yours begins with a Y for Yorkshire? Those in Scotland start with S, areas near London are L, Wales is C for "Cymru" and so on ;)

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 12:08 PM

Yeah, i know - i meant calender year, trying to break it down to our friends over the pond! So in 2016, 3 plates are out, but covering just those 12 months.
My old plate i loved cos it was YY - proper Yorkshire! PR is from preston.
I was expecting Welsh plates to start LL...!

cuts_off_prius 09-08-2016 12:14 PM

A good reference site for specs of all models globally is Automobile Catalog: Catalogue of car makers in automobile-catalog

And we get fewer powertrain choices simply because our FMVSS (US)/CMVSS (CAN) and EPA standards differ from that of the global UN-ECE, so it's very cost prohibitive to certify each powertrain combo, which is why at one point BMW brought over its first single diesel (35d variant) that made sense to be used for multiple models such as the X5, 3 series, 5 series. A nice explanation https://jalopnik.com/a-simple-explana...n-h-1493377285

SteveMak 09-08-2016 12:30 PM

re Transmissions -- I have a 2015 Audi Q5 with an 8-speed automatic. It's my first Audi, first AWD (Quattro), first SUV, first diesel, first automatic transmission in over 5 decades of driving. Nice :-) The top 3 gears are overdrive. My engine spins at 1500 RPM @ 60mph.

Mercedes is coming out with an 11-speed automatic. We're getting closer to CVTs, without the limitations of today's CVTs, and that's a good thing.

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 12:38 PM

Thats a good link - it had both the 2013 i20 and 1978 Datsun 120Y, i doubt it misses much.

benlovesgoddess 09-08-2016 02:11 PM

I take that back, there are no Toyotas...!


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