Car Makers / Their stated plans to stop making ICE cars
 

EV sales have 4x in the last 5 years.

Volvo has said their last ICE car will be made in 2020.

VW and Audi predicts 2025 will be their final ICE car production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dI_E-EAjz0

If you're driving an expensive ICE car, you might consider selling it before it quickly depreciates.

I'm driving a 2-year-old Audi Q5. Diesel. I'm hanging onto it. I'm sceptical about this whole "The ICE is falling! The ICE is falling!" rhetoric. I'm sure it'll eventually happen. I'm just skeptical that we'll see EV-only showrooms across North America, where I live, in 5 or so-years.

I'm not panicking, folks.

The next Mazda3 in 2018 will have a HCCI engine; a gasoline fueled ICE that uses compression like a diesel for ignition. The ICE will be around for the very least as a range extender for some plug ins.

There will be huge regional differences in the uptake of EV's, overpopulated cities like London which charge huge amounts just for ICE cars to enter will be first. Rural places like where I live will be the last sadly, which is a shame as my next car may be electric, depending on performance and cost. A model 3 would be ideal, but I feel the price may be higher than expected upon release, Tesla did that with the roadster and waiting customers weren't happy at all...

Paul, if you don't mind, what's the name of your town/village? I'd like to "fly in" with Google Maps and take a look.

It's Dolgellau (don't even try and say it, it has funny noises in it!) Won't take you long, it's a pretty small town of 3500 ish people.

"Dolgellau" looks like a French spelling. What's your history, Paul?

It's not especially old, started life as a village in 1198. Some Roman stuff found here, but think they were just passing through ha. Was popular with Quakers etc. There's some history here, but as far as British Historic towns go, this isn't anything special.

Dolgellau History

I REALLY enjoyed that video, Paul! Thanks for the "virtual holiday"!

Hope US taxpayers can now stop subsidizing EVs :rolleyes:

I see you're from Houston? ;) The last I heard, Houston has worse air pollution than Los Angeles.

Stop EV subsidies? Like the US$600 BILLION worth of US gov't subsidies handed to the oil industry in 2015?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies

According to that Wiki article, oil industry subsidies by all gov'ts worldwide are responsible for a 21% INCREASE in air pollution and 55% of air pollution-related deaths.

I would love to live in an area like that town DF. Does it even have a traffic light? Wife could never stand it due to proximity to a WalMart :lol:

Family friend lived near Columbus Ohio. Worth about 50 million now. Owned the property close to 200 years. Gov't paid them to NOT grow stuff. I would prefer to have the subsidy money pay off the debt. Never got one myself, so I would be biased.

No traffic, no traffic lights, no stress, no problem!

I can't find anything from Volvo saying that they will stop ICE cars in 3 years time? Is there anything else out there that confirms this?

They recently, 2-3 years ago, invested a lot of money on a new engine configuration with very high pressure injectors and turbos etc, which only arrived in some cars in 2015, these engines would have been designed to continue in production for a long time, probably 20 years to provide the payback on the investment.

I would have to say that until a manufacturer the size of Volvo has 80-90% of it's cars electric, they won't be making any plans to drop ICE cars.

Personally, I see the trend for Hybrids increasing dramatically and then they will start to shift the bias of power from ICE to Electric, and eventually the ICE becoming redundant.

Oliver.

WOW! Paul, in case you haven't heard, movies are now in color AND you can hear the actors talk, too!

I got that detail off the YouTube video, Oliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dI_E-EAjz0

By American journalism standards THAT should be credible enough.

I'm officially jealous. Loads of personality where you live!

Thanks, Steve! I'm rather fond of Oakland, California, too!