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GasSavers_DaX 07-24-2006 10:18 AM

Cue up "Pomp and Circumstance"...
 
That's right folks, in a mere 11 days I'll be walking across the stage and shaking the president's hand. No, not George Bush...Wayne Clough, the president of Georgia Tech.

August 4th will mark the end of my 6 year journey towards a bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering. I'm getting excited and at the same time this all feels so surreal. School is all I've known for the past 18 years...what happens next?

This week is hell - finishing up my senior design project, preparing a presentation and two reports. It's all good though...not a worry thanks to senioritis. I really am not sweating any of this stuff...I've just got my eye on the prize.

So yes...August 4th, I plan on being smashed before the ceremony (9AM...yikes), during the ceremony, and after the ceremony. I'll be sure to post an awesome picture of me in my getup.

To all those that have graduated, I'm sure you know how I feel. To all those still in school - hang in there, graduation will come. Don't rush it...enjoy your stay in school. I don't regret for one instant taking 6 years to get my bachelor's...best damn 6 years of my life.

krousdb 07-24-2006 11:39 AM

I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking that I'm late for an exam. I don't miss those days at all.

Compaq888 07-24-2006 11:46 AM

I still have 4 years left. Waiting list is 2 years then the program another 2 years. I'll try to get another degree while i'm on the waiting list.

The Toecutter 07-24-2006 01:37 PM

Got a little under one year left for my degree in electrical engineering. Only 4 years. I ain't got money to throw around.

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School is all I've known for the past 18 years...what happens next?
a) You spend a few months or years under your parents' roof looking for a job as they ***** at you. Yes, it does happen to people that chose something practical instead of some lame liberal arts degree, quite often.
b) When you finally get the job, you get a drug test. They want to find evidence of certain diseases so they can bar you from insurance coverage, and perhaps sell that DNA.
c) You work 60 hours a week for the pay of 40 beause your employer put you on a salary and doesn't have to pay you overtime.
d) If you complain, you may get fired and blacklisted. Word travels around the corporate world.

Welcome to the real world! They say all that hard work pays off...



Please, take this with a grain of salt AND a little seriousness. Contradictory, I know. It was meant to be a little to the dark side of funny.

tomauto 07-24-2006 02:02 PM

congrats!
 
Great job!!!:D In may watching all the seniors was kinda of exciting and the general consensus was that, it only gets harder from freshmen year. Even though I was a freshmen, I spent a bunch of time with a few of the seniors at my school, and they all seemed like really great and hard working people.

Personally, I dont care how long it takes to graduate, but a mechanical engineering degree is worth it. That is what I need to strive for! My first year was kind of crazy, but the U.S. needs so many more of them and the field is very open. There will be a job for you...don't worry.

Compaq888 07-24-2006 02:05 PM

Nothing funny about A or D. That is exactly what's happening to me right now. I can't even get a simple job at the movie theatre.

Mighty Mira 07-24-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by krousdb
I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking that I'm late for an exam. I don't miss those days at all.

I think everyone has those dreams.

About a month ago, I had the dream where there was a class that I had been skipping for so long I had forgotten about it, and I needed it to graduate.:o

It would be nice when getting a technical degree if you actually spent the time learning the stuff you went there for instead of 3 years of technical and 1-2 years of political indoctrination.

krousdb 07-24-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Mira
It would be nice when getting a technical degree if you actually spent the time learning the stuff you went there for instead of 3 years of technical and 1-2 years of political indoctrination.


I don't remember any political indoctrination during my 4 years. I guess I got lucky.:p

The Toecutter 07-24-2006 02:55 PM

Ahh, political indoctrination. My university is a private and Catholic. So naturally, they were indoctrinating the engineers with Ayn Rand right-wing BS.

"You can go wherever you want to go. Don't get worried if you get laid off, that's how the free market works. You'll surely find someplace else. Engineers can go anywhere."

Or how about "Lockheed Martin and Boeing have this nation's best interests at heart. They'd be excellent companies to work for."

And other such gems as the time I got intro a class discussion with an engineering professor about electric car technology, the first day I was there in some bull**** intro class 3 years ago.

"And that's why your next car might use a fuel cell, because no battery car will ever exceed 100 miles range."

I sure as hell set his *** straight with multiple, referenced examples. (TZero at 300 miles range, Solectria Sunrise at 373 miles range, Jester EV at 200 miles range, electric Mitsubishi Eclipse at 250 miles range, ect.)

"The battery doesn't last long enough."

Again, I mention the cycle life of NiMH batteries. 1,200 to 80% discharge published by Cobasys, 1,750 cycles to 100% discharge published by Team Fate at UC Davis. Then I basically explain what that means with a car having 100, 200, and 300 miles range respectively and the amount of miles it would theoretically last. Mentioned RAV4 EVs at that time having approached 100,000 miles(Some have exceeded 150,000 miles on their first pack today in 2006, most haven't been driven that far yet). Shelf life of nickel batteries is something that really shouldn't be a concern, as individuals are using 30 year old NiCds in EV conversions still delivering over rated capacity.

"But they can't accelerate or perform like a normal car."

Again, more examples. (TZero at 0-60 in 3.6 seconds, GM EV1 at 0-60 in 7.5 seconds, KAZ limousine with 193 mph top speed, electric Lotus Elise with 0-60 in 5 seconds, ect.)

"They would be too expensive."

Again, I mentioned off the top of my head a 1999 study by Cuenca and Gaines titled "The Evaluation of Electric Vehicle Production and Operating Costs". Basically, a long range EV could be mass produced and sold for the same price as a gas car since the 90s.

"They simply move the pollution to the smoke stack."

Again, I mention a study by Chip Gribben titled "Debunking the Myth of EVs and Smokestacks" on how even from a coal plant, emissions are greatly reduced over a comparable gas car.

"They would overload the grid."

I again provide the necessary figures, and mention yet MORE studies that show the grid can handle tens of millions of EVs.

"Consumers didn't want them."

Again, I mentioned that the EV1s, RAV4s, EV+'s, all had waiting lists of thousands of potential 'buyers'(the cars were mostly never sold, only leased), AFTER most potential 'buyers' had already been weeded out due to not meeting the compaies' rigid criteria such as income, political views, engineering background, ect. Then I mentioned the study tritled "The Current and Future Market for Electric Vehicles" conducted in 2000 from the electric Vehicle Transportation Coalition. Immediate market for EVs in California in 1999 from new car buyers: 12-18% with 95% confidence interval.


Everyone in the classroom was looking at me like I was some sort of freak. It was awesome. I was 18 at the time.

Matt Timion 07-24-2006 03:03 PM

Congrats DaX! After 7 years and 3 different majors (also took 2 years off to travel abroad) I graduated 1 1/2 years ago. I was going to take a year or so off and go into graduate school, but I've enjoyed not going to school so much I might just make a habit of not going back to school :)

I think life got about 500x easier when school ended.

thisisntjared 07-24-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaX
To all those that have graduated, I'm sure you know how I feel. To all those still in school - hang in there, graduation will come. Don't rush it...enjoy your stay in school. I don't regret for one instant taking 6 years to get my bachelor's...best damn 6 years of my life.

i never really felt that great about it. i knew then i am going to go for my masters as soon as i find someone to pay for it:D

GasSavers_DaX 07-25-2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Toecutter
Got a little under one year left for my degree in electrical engineering. Only 4 years. I ain't got money to throw around.


a) You spend a few months or years under your parents' roof looking for a job as they ***** at you. Yes, it does happen to people that chose something practical instead of some lame liberal arts degree, quite often.
b) When you finally get the job, you get a drug test. They want to find evidence of certain diseases so they can bar you from insurance coverage, and perhaps sell that DNA.
c) You work 60 hours a week for the pay of 40 beause your employer put you on a salary and doesn't have to pay you overtime.
d) If you complain, you may get fired and blacklisted. Word travels around the corporate world.

Congrats on graduating soon...EE is crazy sh!t.

a) won't apply. I've got a job and am on the path to home ownership
b, c, d) perks of a small company - no drug tests. Yes, I'll be salary, but they TELL people to go home at 8 hours.

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Originally Posted by tomauto
it only gets harder from freshmen year

So true. It's the opposite of high school. With the attitude you have, you'll make it. Keep your eye on the prize, and don't let a few bad grades (or repeated classes in my case) get you down.

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Originally Posted by The Toecutter
Ahh, political indoctrination. My university is a private and Catholic. So naturally, they were indoctrinating the engineers with Ayn Rand right-wing BS.

Funny...I guess the reason we were spoon fed left-wing BS is because we're a public institution.

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Originally Posted by Matt Timion
Congrats DaX! After 7 years and 3 different majors (also took 2 years off to travel abroad) I graduated 1 1/2 years ago. I was going to take a year or so off and go into graduate school, but I've enjoyed not going to school so much I might just make a habit of not going back to school :)

I think life got about 500x easier when school ended.

Thanks. Yeah, I've been through four majors, so I know how it is. I've thought about grad school, but it's definately on hold. I want to enjoy life a little while.

Mighty Mira 07-25-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by krousdb
I don't remember any political indoctrination during my 4 years. I guess I got lucky.:p

How old are you?

krousdb 07-25-2006 03:56 PM

I am 41. But I went to college late, from 93 to 97, University of Pittsburgh.

Mighty Mira 07-25-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Toecutter
Ahh, political indoctrination. My university is a private and Catholic. So naturally, they were indoctrinating the engineers with Ayn Rand right-wing BS.

"You can go wherever you want to go. Don't get worried if you get laid off, that's how the free market works. You'll surely find someplace else. Engineers can go anywhere."

Or how about "Lockheed Martin and Boeing have this nation's best interests at heart. They'd be excellent companies to work for."

Wow, I'd never heard of that. I got the standard politically correct left wing BS. But the Ayn Rand stuff is BS too.

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Again, I mention the cycle life of NiMH batteries. 1,200 to 80% discharge published by Cobasys, 1,750 cycles to 100% discharge published by Team Fate at UC Davis.
So basically this guy is wrong?
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Everyone in the classroom was looking at me like I was some sort of freak. It was awesome. I was 18 at the time.
That's funny as hell!

It used to piss me off how moronic most college kids are. They NEVER question anything the professor says. Oftentimes, the prof is wrong as you just demonstrated. But the average student just sits there vacantly, absorbing this "knowledge" so that they can repeat it uncritically at some later date.

The Toecutter 07-26-2006 12:53 AM

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So basically this guy is wrong?
Not necessarily. He's just speaking of the chemistry in general.

Perhaps I should clarify I was referring specifically to the Ovonic NiMH battery. There is a rather large variance. The Ovonics mostly mitigated the limitations mentioned in the article. Their main problem was overheating, which usually occured when EV1s were pushed to their limits in extreme weather conditions.

JanGeo 07-26-2006 05:21 AM

One thing that will get you down when you finally get a job with a high pay is the amount of taxes that hit you with. You may realize that it would have been more profitible to have worked for those 4 years making less and getting taxed less than waiting and starting with a higher paying job. Another thing is to plan on changing jobs every 3 to 5 years or else your pay will not increase much.

GasSavers_DaX 08-01-2006 04:25 AM

Well, just walked out of my last final. 72 hours until I walk!

Compaq888 08-01-2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaX
Well, just walked out of my last final. 72 hours until I walk!

Make sure you post pics of your graduation.

Education is hard for me. I'll cry with happiness when I receive my college diploma.

SVOboy 08-01-2006 07:20 AM

Aww, graduation, I'm getting all teary! Good luck, m8.

red91sit 05-30-2007 06:26 PM

aw kriwkey. I just graduated from high school. Such a huge waste of time. The only class i learned something in was my Math class.

I'm looking forward to college, actually learning about things i care about. WOOT WOOT.

VetteOwner 05-30-2007 08:34 PM

well congrads! as just getting done with my first year of a min of 4 im starting to feel like ill be in school forever! but it will be worth it!. im only going to a community college right now cuz its close cheap and almost all credits(from the whole school) transfer to all the IL collages. plan to go one more year here then transfer to a 4 year place. im going into electronics technology. i know theres jobs all over the place for that. i may switch and go to engineering but im not sure yet.

repete86 05-30-2007 08:42 PM

Abolish grade slavery!!!

SVOboy 05-30-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by red91sit (Post 53601)
aw kriwkey. I just graduated from high school. Such a huge waste of time. The only class i learned something in was my Math class.

I'm looking forward to college, actually learning about things i care about. WOOT WOOT.

Where you going?

GasSavers_DaX 05-31-2007 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red91sit (Post 53601)
aw kriwkey. I just graduated from high school. Such a huge waste of time. The only class i learned something in was my Math class.

I'm looking forward to college, actually learning about things i care about. WOOT WOOT.

This is exactly how I felt about high-school.



VetteOwner - community college at first is a good idea - I wish I had done more of it.

thisisntjared 05-31-2007 07:01 PM

holy back from the dead! this thread is from before i got the job i am working now.

VetteOwner 05-31-2007 07:39 PM

woa i just noticed! WHO DID THIS!!!!

red91sit 05-31-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VetteOwner (Post 53953)
woa i just noticed! WHO DID THIS!!!!

Lol, MY BAD, i dunno exactly how I managed to get this one out of here. But uhhh anywho.

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Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 53656)
Where you going?

North Dakota State University :D (NDSU)


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