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GasSavers_Kraig 08-05-2006 04:51 PM

ScanGauge?
 
My '91 Festiva was built prior to OBD I and OBD II, does this mean I can't use any sort of ScanGauge? Is a vacuum gauge my only tool to use?

SVOboy 08-05-2006 04:53 PM

You could pick up a superMID from Matt, which is what I use on my crx. You'll prolly have inaccurate instantaneous but you ought to be able to dial in the long term fuel trim. I don't really mind it being inaccurate, relative performance is all that really matters.

GasSavers_Kraig 08-05-2006 04:54 PM

What year is your CRX?

SVOboy 08-05-2006 04:56 PM

91, originally pre-OBD (OBD0 as we call it), but now it's OBD1.

GasSavers_Kraig 08-05-2006 04:56 PM

What is the significance of "SVOboy"? Straight vegetable oil?

I ask because I own a Comp Prep SVO Mustang...........

SVOboy 08-05-2006 04:57 PM

Veggie Oil, my main man.

GasSavers_Kraig 08-05-2006 05:01 PM

Is your CRX a diesel ? lol

SVOboy 08-05-2006 05:03 PM

Nah, I just carried the name over from when I was into dubs three years ago.

Matt Timion 08-05-2006 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraig
My '91 Festiva was built prior to OBD I and OBD II, does this mean I can't use any sort of ScanGauge? Is a vacuum gauge my only tool to use?

As SVOBoy mentioned, a SuperMID should work.

I see no reason why it can't be accurately calibrated. I'm going to be sending off for a batch soon. I'll make an annoucement when they are available.

If by chance your have a carburator, I would recommend looking for a Zemco Computer on ebay.

GasSavers_Kraig 08-06-2006 10:48 AM

SuperMid
 
Matt,

I was reading a thread about the SuperMid. It looks like it needs two connections? One to an injector and one to a speed sensor? The injector is no problem for me, but I believe a Festiva speedo uses a cable to drive it and it doesn't have cruise control. So I'm not sure a SuperMid would work for me? Any other alternatives besides converting over to the electronics from an Aspire and then run a ScanGauge (to much work for me)?

Gary Palmer 08-07-2006 11:30 AM

Kraig: Can you give us a better idea of what the Festiva has. Is it fuel injected or carburated? If it's fuel injected, is it MPFI or something else.

SVOboy 08-07-2006 11:31 AM

I'm fairly sure it'd be some Fordy/Mazday version of MPFI.

Matt Timion 08-07-2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraig
Matt,

I was reading a thread about the SuperMid. It looks like it needs two connections? One to an injector and one to a speed sensor? The injector is no problem for me, but I believe a Festiva speedo uses a cable to drive it and it doesn't have cruise control. So I'm not sure a SuperMid would work for me? Any other alternatives besides converting over to the electronics from an Aspire and then run a ScanGauge (to much work for me)?

Yoshi told me that he found a magnetic alternative for the supermid. It seems like it would work, but it woudl cost a little extra to get it working (Yoshi needs to add an extra sensor to the SuperMID to get it to function properly).

Gary Palmer 08-07-2006 12:06 PM

Mid 80's chrysler products had a device that hung on top of the transmission, where the speedometer cable comes out. It was basically an adapter that received the cable and then had a cable replacement to go into the speedometer. The sensor had 2 wires off of it, so that it could be used for cruise control. I wonder if something like that might work on the Festiva?

GasSavers_Kraig 08-07-2006 01:19 PM

Mpfi
 
The Festiva does have MPFI with a vane air meter etc (not speed density). I'm sure it is Mazda derived as is the rest of the drivetrain. The body and final assembly was by KIA (made in Korea sticker on 'em). The motor is a 1.3 liter four banger with 63 hp and like 58 ft lbs of torque.

GasSavers_Yoshi 08-07-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Timion
Yoshi told me that he found a magnetic alternative for the supermid. It seems like it would work, but it woudl cost a little extra to get it working (Yoshi needs to add an extra sensor to the SuperMID to get it to function properly).

Hello from Japan,

Yes. I got some sample speed sensors as a picture below.
It has a lead switch and produces four ON-OFF signals per revolution which is the same number of digital SPD signal required for the SuperMID M-1.
We need some circuit to clean up noises and chattering of the lead switch.
Anyway, it should work on the Festiva.

Yoshi

https://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/iida/img1022181952.gif


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