Poll: Should Stability Control be Standard
Should Stability Control be standard on all passenger vehicles sold in the U.S. and Canada?
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I'm fine with it. When I was younger I was fortunate in that there was plenty of opportunity to drive around on snowy, desolate back roads and parking lots. That's where I learned how to handle a skid and it has saved my butt more than once. But fast foward 8 years or so and there's still plenty of chance that I'll make a mistake, and I'm all for having an electronic system as backup to smart driving. Not only that, but we don't have any control over those with whom we share the road. Some can handle themselves in adverse conditions, others drive like idiots and won't know what to do if they break loose on a right-hand turn and one of us is in the oncoming lane. Stability control in one car might well keep someone else on the road and out of the hospital.
I have read quite a bit of whining and complaining about stability control from the "performance oriented" crowd. They either complain that it will fight them and do more harm than good, or else it de-rates the car's performance so that they can't go as fast. I even read one assertion that stability control is some kind of conspiracy to enforce slower driving. To the first, I would contend that it isn't terribly likely. In cases where a driver has blamed a crash on stabiliy control, one might wonder what would have happened with out it. Might it be that it's possible to set yourself up so badly that nothing can keep you out of the trees? And with the power deration and speed complaints, my response is "well, duh." Going too fast is a likely precursor to most single-car accidents. I would contend that the driver complaining about an unexpected loss of power was probably closer to the edge than he knew. Like some were saying in the other thread, intensive driver education would be the best thing. Get people behind the wheel, put them on an adverse road surface, and let them experience loss of traction. Then teach them how not to get into that situation again. Finally, teach them how to get out of the skid once they are in it and drill them until countersteer and the right footwork are reflexive. Unfortunately I don't know if we will ever see that here. Too many of us treat cars like appliances, and our driver education program in the US is pathetic. Given that reality, standard stability control is a viable stop-gap to make the roads a safer, if slightly less "exciting." |
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Originally posted by Brick:
"Going too fast is a likely precursor to most single-car accidents. I would contend that the driver complaining about an unexpected loss of power was probably closer to the edge than he knew. Like some were saying in the other thread, intensive driver education would be the best thing. Unfortunately I don't know if we will ever see that here. Too many of us treat cars like appliances, and our driver education program in the US is pathetic." Until a tool is invented for tightening "the nut behind the wheel", the rest of us can only watch out for these clowns ... and they're everywhere! :eek: |
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I voted NO
More nannyism for the stupid human. More weight, cost. Im glad Im halfway through my life. I just dont know how much more of this nannyism I can handle. |
I voted yes because I might otherwise be the victim of someone else'e loss of control. Having said that, I think Darwin has something for those who refuse to learn how to drive. I personally leave it on unless I want to consciously take manual control of a situation.
In a rear wheel drive, I get better traction by a) turning off traction control, b) using a higher gear, and c) applying the handbrake (the poor man's limited slip). |
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I"ve never been a fan of traction control, or vehicle stability, (limited slips are nice to have) but that's it. I wouldn't even buy a car if I could not turn off my vehicle stability control. |
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I vote a resounding NO as well. I don't want to be forced to pay for such a thing, I don't want the additional weight, and I don't want the additional complexity. No matter how safe we make our cars, people are going to be killed in them anyway. If one were really concerned about safety, a better idea would be to have roll cages installed in new cars, to prevent occupants from being crushed to death by larger vehicles. |
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