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Compaq888 09-25-2006 10:30 PM

What kind of car protection do you have that prevents getting your car stolen?
 
I was thinking of getting the Autolock and placing that on my clutch. Without the clutch being depressed the car won't start.

I currently have an alarm with ignition disable.

-What do you currently have that prevents others from stealing your car???

-And what are your future plans to install something that prevents your car from getting stolen?

onegammyleg 09-26-2006 01:24 AM

With alarms for cars its best to start by working out what is reason that someone would want to break into the car in the first place and choose and suitable alarm for that level of risk.
Alarms can cost big money , and a $500 alarm probably is a bit of overkill for a $150 '78 Nissan.

If you have an exotic car like a Porsche , then most probably a break in is so they can take the car complete.
Guys that target cars like this (as a job) require the best alarm ,but even then they still get cars.
(but its not as easy as the film ?gone in 60 seconds? makes it out to be)

But on a real cheap car , perhaps a break in is so they can get car hi-fi or other goods and they dont even want to take the car.

So , yeah , choose a suitable alarm to suit the thief.

One of my old bangers was getting broken into every weekend.
So I made up a kit alarm that would go off after 5 seconds the interior light came on.
It had no sirens outside the car , but had 2 X 120dB sirens inside the car., one of which was under the dash (protectiing the wiring and alarm).
It was simply impossible to be inside the car when it was going off.(and completely insane if you tried to look up under the dash)

This alarm was dirt cheap but highly effective.

Silveredwings 09-26-2006 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by onegammyleg
This alarm was dirt cheap but highly effective.

Nice! :thumbup: :D :thumbup:

SVOboy 09-26-2006 03:22 AM

I don't have anything that prevents my car from being stolen on it.

Also, my car starts without the clutch being depressed, it's a very simple thing to do, but the point of a clutch lock is that you can't move the car easily even if you do get it stolen. People seem to swear by them.

kickflipjr 09-26-2006 04:34 AM

my car sits outside unlocked.

The onlytime I lock it is when i have something valuble inside (like my college textbooks) or if I park in a very scketchy area.

GasSavers_DaX 09-26-2006 04:36 AM

Uglyness. Seriously, my car is a hideous heap, and I feel sorry for anyone that has a desire to steal it. Not to mention that once they get it running, they're going to be trying to pull of and feel the drag of the HF gearing...they'd probably jump out after that and steal the car next to mine.

For a cheap way of protecting a car at home, I have heard of people buying the "as-seen-on-tv" Driveway Patrol motion detector system and put the sensor in their front seat. The chimes you keep in your room, and if anyone (or anything) is picked up by the motion detector (someone peeking in the window trying to figure out how to get in), the chimes go off and wake you up. I think it's only like $19.99.

Matt Timion 09-26-2006 06:50 AM

A clutch lock will just make it more difficult for someone to steal the car, not stop them.

If they want to start the car they can just cut the wires leading to the clutch sensor and then connect them manually. If they really want to move the car they can just disconnect the cable leading to the clutch master cylinder and then add an extension and move it by hand.

That's also assuming they want the car or the engine, which I don't think they would since you don've have a giant engine or anything. Perhaps if you had an EX or an SI they would.

They will most likely go for your stereo and amp, which will take them all of 2 minutes to get.

But then again I've never had a car broken into before. I also have the best home security system known to man:

https://69.16.227.167/files/images/P1010229.jpg

They'll scare anyone away.

MakDiesel 09-26-2006 09:47 AM

21-year old factory original paint is my deterrent. Also, not a lot of interior is left so if they want my $20 pioneer mids that are attached to the rear fenderwells by magnetism alone, then by all means. My trick is I've already stolen most of what's inside, so all they get left with is bargain CD player and a non-stock shift knob.

In the future, because I want a modest 10" woofer in the back, will be a full tint job to keep out prying eyes, a stock-looking shelf to hide it (pseudo-false floor-ish), and to keep the car in the same spot I parked it I'll install a custom tamper-proof kill switch located somewhere other than the dash (underneath seat or in the door, etc) Mak

onegammyleg 09-26-2006 10:11 AM

?I want a modest 10" woofer in the back, will be a full tint job to keep out prying eyes, a stock-looking shelf to hide it?

My 12inch is about to go into my Swift (Metro clone).
The speaker box it rather largish and its real solid (read - heavy)
Unless they get my rear hatch open I am thinking its an impossiblity to remove it from the car.
So my plan is to use another lock mechanism on the hatch with a remote solenoid and hidden switch.
Unless they use dynamite it wont open. , and if they do use dynamite thay can have it :D

LincolnW 09-26-2006 01:12 PM

Full insurance coverage baby!

I hope someone steals that POS so I can buy something newer. lol

Seriously though. I don't have more than a few grand into it, if someone is hard up enough to steal it, they must need it more than I do.

JanGeo 09-26-2006 02:41 PM

Seems no one wants to break into a 94 Metro but I got a silent paging alarm for the xB about $56 with inputs for doors, trunk, hood, and engine start and they threw in a very good motion sensor.

BumblingB 09-26-2006 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compaq888
-And what are your future plans to install something that prevents your car from getting stolen?

Nothing - if someone wants to steal a Metro they must really be hurting and they deserve it. If they want the Insight they'll be seen for sure before they get very far - lime green metallic paint is the theft deterent for that. As far as the Matrix goes, I could see that getting stolen so I'll keep the full coverage on it until I sell it - soon.

rh77 09-26-2006 06:44 PM

Hungry Criminals
 
I leave a ham sandwich on the dashboard in the summertime with plenty of mayo. When/if the would-be crook breaks in, he's like, "Hmm, might as well eat the sandwich since it's here." Meanwhile the toxins in the stale mayo take effect and the crook is sent away with Gastro-Intestinal problems.

Seriously, if someone wants to steal your car, they will. It would be a bummer, but my car can be replaced with something more fuel-efficient. Despite full-coverage, I'd get peanuts to get something, but it would be an opportunity. It's a material item.

RH77

Compaq888 09-26-2006 07:11 PM

Do you know how hard it is to find a 99-00 civic coupe 5 speed in stock condition that was very well maintained???? Very very hard!

Anyway I bought the Autolock pro and put it on my clutch pedal. I also have a very good alarm with Ignition disable.

While anyone is screwing with the autolock or the alarm I'll come out with a bat and beat the **** out of them.

The driveway patrol sensor is a good idea. I might get that.

onegammyleg 09-27-2006 12:13 AM

Hi theclencher - ?I don't think anyone else wants it.?

Given the rite situation someone will steal it.

A friend of mine has a mid 90's Skoda and it dissapears every 6 months or so.
The unfortunate thing is that he ends up getting it back. :D

SVOboy 09-27-2006 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compaq888
Do you know how hard it is to find a 99-00 civic coupe 5 speed in stock condition that was very well maintained???? Very very hard!

Considering there were millions of these cars made and they're only 6 or 7 years old, I wouldn't call it hard, at all.

But in any case, enjoy your clutch lock, I'm sure it wil afford you hours of amusement, better than any Super Nintendo.

FormulaTwo 09-27-2006 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SVOboy
Considering there were millions of these cars made and they're only 6 or 7 years old, I wouldn't call it hard, at all.



I beleive it depends on where you live. Here in NC the ricer "scene" was huge. It is especially hard to find a nice stock civic of any year. Especially a 92-95 hatch.

Before i bought mine, the previous owner had installed a wing on the roof. As well as fiberglassed the trunk area for speakers.

MakDiesel 09-27-2006 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onegammyleg
?I want a modest 10" woofer in the back, will be a full tint job to keep out prying eyes, a stock-looking shelf to hide it?

My 12inch is about to go into my Swift (Metro clone).
The speaker box it rather largish and its real solid (read - heavy)
Unless they get my rear hatch open I am thinking its an impossiblity to remove it from the car.
So my plan is to use another lock mechanism on the hatch with a remote solenoid and hidden switch.
Unless they use dynamite it wont open. , and if they do use dynamite thay can have it :D

I have significantly more hatch glass area than you and it would not benefit me to anger a thief into breaking my glass to get the sub/amp out. Your method seems like a good fit for you. My sub will be a 10" Bazooka powered version so heavy and big it isn't (I can carry it one handed no problem). I may use heavy duty steel tie-down straps and mount them w/ concealed bolts or just paint it so fugly no one would dare pretend to own it. The shelf will conceal it's fugliness for me. Mak

Compaq888 09-27-2006 08:07 PM

I bought mine fully stock.

onegammyleg 09-27-2006 09:08 PM

Hii MakDiesel ..

yeah , most bazooka tubes are quite small and light.
Most thieves dont come fully prepared unless they have seen it b4 and know what they must overcome to get the goodies.
Probably at best they will come with a set of wire cutters and and pliers , so if you throw an allen headed bolt in their somewhere they will be quite skrood.

MakDiesel 10-02-2006 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onegammyleg
Hii MakDiesel ..

yeah , most bazooka tubes are quite small and light.
Most thieves dont come fully prepared unless they have seen it b4 and know what they must overcome to get the goodies.
Probably at best they will come with a set of wire cutters and and pliers , so if you throw an allen headed bolt in their somewhere they will be quite skrood.


or one up them w/ a tamper-proof one way flat head (and have access on the bottom). Ha! suckers....

onegammyleg 10-02-2006 09:20 AM

Why not go nuts and use ?shear off head? bolts ,, then no one can get it out :D

Compaq888 10-02-2006 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theclencher
If you're fooling around with car audio as a student you aren't as poor as you say. Return the stupid thing and buy some books.

ROFL

onegammyleg 10-02-2006 10:53 PM

Hi theclencher..
You can get some real cheap car hifi gear now...
Chinese speakers can be very cheap , but unfortunately they sound like sumone is strangling a cat.

https://www.gothic.ru/cinema/moviesti...evil_eyes5.jpg

MakDiesel 10-03-2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theclencher
If you're fooling around with car audio as a student you aren't as poor as you say. Return the stupid thing and buy some books.

I only buy toys once the bills are paid, and school started back last month. Besides, I need something to drown out the turbo semis and road noise inside my 222k mile, partially-gutted, Honda tin box during my mostly highway 320-mi weekly commute to school/work.
However, I am not a liar, quoth Wikipedia:

The current poverty rate is measured according to the 2006 HHS Poverty Guidelines[5] which are illustrated below.

Persons in Family Unit 48 Contiguous States and D.C.
1 $9,800
2 $13,200
3 $16,600
4 $20,000
5 $23,400
For each additional person, add $3,400

Being as I am on par to make less than $9,800 this year by several hundred, I am, in fact, poor, and in college (and therefore a student).

Compaq888 10-15-2006 05:09 PM

A little update. I rewired the alarm a little better and hid a lot of wires. The autolock is working out great.

Next I plan to get a battery backup for my alarm because I know how easy it is to quiet an alarm. I also plan to get a kill switch.

The kill switch will obviously be installed after the battery back up. I want me to be last person that finishes up the security on the car and know where everything is.

onegammyleg 10-15-2006 07:15 PM

Hi Compaq888

Put the siren in a hard to reach location and in such a way that would prevent sumone from filling it up with expanding foam from a spray can.

https://www.gasoila.com/images/Expanding-Foam.jpg

What I have done in my alarms is have the alarm siren output wire switch an external relay.
The relay then has two sepeate fused wires on its output that go to two seperate sirens.

If the baddies get access to 1 siren and ground the wire going to it (which normally could destroy the output switching transistor in the alarm) it will just blow 1 fuse but the alarm will continue to be alarming. :D

GasSavers_Ryland 10-16-2006 08:58 AM

I bought my civic with tinted windows, and it's nice for those times that I have $1000 worth of tools in the back (most of the time) but really my main anti-theft device is, when my car is not parked in the driveway I put the keys in the ashtray insted of on the dash like I do at home, if I'm in a large city that I don't know well then I'll lock the doors and remove the stairo/cd face plate and toss it under the seat (CD player being most likey to be stolen), but if someone wanted to steal it, they will steal it.

Rstb88 10-16-2006 09:14 AM

thats all i do, but i want that flamethrower protection system that used to be available in either brazil or africa. Need to try and find a vid.

Silveredwings 10-16-2006 04:51 PM

I had an old car stolen once. It was maybe worth $1,500 ... $1,800 tops. I got $3,650 from insurance after my deductable. Schwinggggg...

So who would I be protecting with an alarm? If anything, what the advent of "all cars having alarms" brought us is car-jacking. I'd like to go back to the old way please. ;)

onegammyleg 10-16-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silveredwings
I had an old car stolen once. It was maybe worth $1,500 ... $1,800 tops. I got $3,650 from insurance after my deductable. Schwinggggg...

Lucky you , where I come from the only winner in insurance claims , is the insurance company.

Down with them black hearted scoundrells , yarrr :thumbdown:
https://www.hicksville.co.nz/Pirate.GIF

bagpipe goatee 10-16-2006 11:36 PM

I have the ultimate theft reduction device: the appearance of my car.

https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...1369nt8tw5.jpg

Compaq888 10-16-2006 11:38 PM

It doesn't matter what the car looks like. The thief wants the parts.

Cover your plate when posting pics, unless you want to get it stolen.

edit: sorry for coming off so hard but don't show your plates online.

bagpipe goatee 10-17-2006 09:04 AM

I know about the whole showing-the-plates thing, but I only do that on nicer cars. Someone from gassavers is not going to drive down and steal my unlocked-with-nothing-in-it $190 civic. If anything, it'll be someone who walks past it parked in a parking ramp or something. And I can't really cover the plates then.

It costs like 50 bucks for the dmv to look up the plates, and then driving two states away or flying or something, then trying to find a place to store the car where it won't be found, etc. isn't really worth 190 bucks to anybody.

I know what you said about "wanting the parts," but there's no real parts to want on here. The body is rusted and bent, the seats are broken, the interior is cracked, the back bumper is broken, the hatch is dented and rusted, older civic auto trannys don't sell for anything anyway, etc. The only parts that are slightly desirable are the windows, and only the back three are original.

Thanks for looking out for me, though.

There's usually nothing in this car, not even a backseat (so I don't have to give friends rides) It has a stock cassette player, even. Madison's not that bad, but it's getting worse. Sometimes the only way to not get bent out of shape when someone messes with something is to not have anything nice looking.

Compaq888 10-22-2006 02:24 PM

Update. Upgraded my current alarm a little better.

GasSavers_Ryland 10-22-2006 06:48 PM

I also have this sticker:

https://www.northernsun.com/images/th...6Attention.jpg

Silveredwings 10-22-2006 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagpipe goatee
There's usually nothing in this car, not even a backseat (so I don't have to give friends rides)

hahahaha, that's funny!:thumbup: :)

GasSavers_Ryland 10-22-2006 07:18 PM

I never did understand the whole idea of not making your license plate public, why should anyone care if you know someone's plate number? I can walk down the street and find all kinds of plate numbers, walk in to a buissness, and listen for a few seconds and find out all kinds of things about someone, so why would someone spend money to find out who someone is just from their plate number???

Silveredwings 10-22-2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryland
I never did understand the whole idea of not making your license plate public, why should anyone care if you know someone's plate number? I can walk down the street and find all kinds of plate numbers, walk in to a buissness, and listen for a few seconds and find out all kinds of things about someone, so why would someone spend money to find out who someone is just from their plate number???

Yeah, I've wondered that as well.

molecule 10-24-2006 08:19 AM

yep definately think the plate thing is stupid...
but it can be fun to play with photoshop...
but if you are gonna do that...mine as well change the color of your car...
i mean...if you think theives are looking for a car online....
what attracts them to the car...i'm 99.99999% sure its not the license plate
however that can be helpful if you stupid online and talk about your personal life...
in which case covering up your license plate is a fairly illogical shield against theft or thieves...
when they can just go read some of your past posts and see that you bought parts from so and so shop and that you live and work here or there...
and lo and behold they got you...


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