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GasSavers_Jack 01-30-2007 12:03 PM

LRR Tires (I know been asked 1000 times)
 
After reading everything I could find here on Gassavers and what I could find else where I am still stumped on the LRR tires for my VX.

Quoted RH77 on Feb 2006:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh77 (Post 5523)
OK CR's policy is that reprinting data is OK as long as it's "noncommercial, educational purposes only", so I think we're cool here.

The tires tested with the "Excellent" rolling resistance rating in the "all-season" category, in order of best overall rating of other factors combined, with 80% as the top tested :

1. Michelin X Radial DT (only available to shopping club members, i.e. Costco, Sam's Club, etc.). Rating: 79%.

2. Michelin Agility Touring (Sold only at Sears). Rating: 62%.

3. Michelin Harmony. Rating: 61%.

4. Hankook Mileage Plus GT H707. Rating: 58%.

5. Kumho Touring 795 A/S. Rating: 57%.

6. Toyo 800 Ultra. Rating: 51%.

7. Sumitomo HTR T4. Rating: 44%

All models can be researched at TireRack.com or similar sites to get a feel for performance. It's the motherlode! Let me know if other information is required, and I'll post it. Now I can buy new tires, finally...

RH77

The only ones that I can find close to my size (165/70/13) are these:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ring+A%2FS+795

The Kumhos in a 155/80SR13

Set of 4 for about $160 to my door. Anyone have any reasons why I should not do that? For some reason I am just afraid to "pull the trigger" on this.

It would be alot easyer if LRR tires were advertised as LRR and you didnt have to have some magic powers to figure it out.

Thanks in advance for input.

rh77 01-30-2007 05:54 PM

CR Publishes Rolling Resistance
 
I went back to the site to get more info, but it requires a subsription of $6/mo. or $29/year for the LRR ratings.

They did say this:

"Consumer Reports is the only organization that regularly publishes a rolling resistance score as part of its ratings of important tire-performance criteria. We note rolling resistance for all the tires we test except winter tires, where traction and grip are of paramount importance."

The latest test of tires was 11/06 -- so for piece of mind you may do a one-month trial and look at additional options.

Here's the link to the LRR page.

Finally it looks like someone is testing this critical FE variable.

RH77

budomove 01-30-2007 07:10 PM

I just put a set of kumho a/s 795s on my hx rims, and these are great. They grip the road much better than the re92, and roll just as easily it seems. they come in 165/80/13 and 175/70/13 too from tirerack.

Check out this survey of the best a/s tires, I assure you these tires will satisfy.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=ST

cems70 02-06-2007 03:25 AM

Jack,
The Sumitomo HTR T4 is available in size 165/70R13 and its maximum psi is 51 (which should give it an advantage over other LRR tires whose psi max is 44):
https://www.sumitomotire.com/catalogs...at_Rev5.05.pdf

GasSavers_Ryland 02-06-2007 12:22 PM

I have 155/80 R13 snow tires on my vx right now and they are great, my other tires are firestone f570 165/70 R13, and are pretty sweet, altho not as low rolling resistance as I was hoping for, they grip amazingly well, and role better then any 175/70 R13 tires I've ever had (175/70 is just to wide, it's absurd) one of the sites posted in the last few days offered 145/80 R13 tires, I'm tempted to get some next time I need new tires.

GasSavers_Jack 02-07-2007 05:34 PM

Tirerack had them at my door today. (the 155/80/13's) I will have them mounted tomorrow. The back set will go on tomorrow too but the fronts will have to wait until the snow tires and rims come off in April.

ron22 06-30-2007 07:21 PM

Jack,
How did the kumho a/s 795s 155/80 tire work out? Any gain in MPG

SL8Brick 06-30-2007 09:23 PM

FWIW, I've had the Toyo 800 Ultras on since Nov.06. Really good wet/dry grip, very smooth, but a little noisy at times. No change in FE 4me.

brucepick 07-01-2007 04:59 PM

Best data I found was to find the latest Consumer Reports issue re. Tires. They do rate them for rr, using their typical 5-point scale with the red and black dots. Unfortunately tire models change pretty quickly sometimes so what's available may not match what did well in Cons. Repts.

The other bit I decided on was to get tires rated at least 44 psi. If I can find/afford tires rated at 50-something I'd prefer that.

88HF 07-01-2007 05:24 PM

I had a dream that someone on gassavers was using powerwheels type hard plastic tires as LRRs. They were big and red.


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