The CVT is the main reason I didnt buy a HCHII. Then theres the 1930's rear drum brakes and the auto climate control system. I would have bought one if you could have gotten a 5 or 6 mt in it. I could have changed the rear brake system out. But my god,, all that auto climate control in a Civic.

I hope Honda answers my prayers on the next Accord. If not I will more than likely never buy another Honda again. And I don't hold much hope for them doing the next small hybrid right either.

I think Hondas cars have went down hill like there motorcycles. At least in the north american market.

I get a kick out of a user here with his CB 125. I look at my 1969 Honda 50 mini trail that still runs with the basic 50cc engine that made Honda famous. Then look at my Accord and Civic and wonder what went wrong. They went from simple and bullet proof to WTF is this. Plus the paints better on the mini trail.... lmao.