Have you calculated your cents/mile costs?
 

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Since last May:

I'm assuming an average of 35 mpg. I only started hypermiling last fall, and have owned the Green Machine since May.

Price of the green machine: $0
Price of registering it: $20
Maintenance: $0
Oil changes: $150
Fuel: $1440ish
Insurance: $1100
Miles driven: 22000

11.545 cents per mile thusfar.

I try to keep an up to date cents/km in the description of my garage entry. Right now it's around 28 cents CAD per mile.

Edit: gasoline alone is 7.3 cents CAD per mile.

i bought my car within the past year -- so my numbers are quite high...

Estimating Some of These
Car: $6,000
Maintenance: $100
Fuel: $850
Insurance: $900 (and that's without any violations/accidents on my record)
Registration: $65
Miles: ~10,000

Cost/Mile = 79 cents/mile and falling
Cost of Car Aside - ~20 cents/mile and I just started hypermiling.

Insurance is a killer :/

Oh I wish! At least my gas bills wouldn't be so high if I lived in the USA. Just filled today: $31 for 8.5 gallons. I remember when $30 was mucho birthday money!

In the time that I have owned my current car (june 6th 2005) I have spent $6,673.97 including:
price paid ($1925),
oil changes ($75.50)
tires ($448.91),
transmition ($453.28 with new clutch, axle seals, and reserficed fly wheel),
suspention ($684.45)
even a new radio ($214.65)
along with gas, insurance, title, and all that other stuff.
In that time I've travled around 31,900 miles, that comes to 20.9 cents per mile.


now my motorcycle is much cheaper!
I put 2000 miles on it last summer.
$0 paid (got in trade + the least amount of cash I would have taken for the cycle I was selling)
$23 for collector plates
$40 for title transfer
$30 for paint
$60 for tires
$75 for gas

of course I don't need insurance, and the lisence never expires.

11.4 cents per mile

Man, insurance is a killer. So far I'm in it about 13-14 cents per mile with the two VWs, two nighthawks, and pickup. But that's only for ~10kmiles on the bunny and 10k on the truck w/o parting anything, and a new battery and starter pushing the cost up. I'll hopefully stabilize at ~6-8 cents per mile or less for a compact, pickup, and motorcycle all insured and running. The Camry pissed me off. I got it with ~90k miles (~170k now), and ~50k miles have been at ~23mpg, when they could've been at ~33mpg, and saved me the kbb value of the damn car! :mad:

$300 a year for insurance w/o collision, $50 for reg, $800 for gas (75mpg@$3/gal), plus whatever for upkeep/initial cost ($300 per year average? A rebuilt engine should last ~300-500k miles at $1500, junk yard parts or lifetime warranty aut0z0n3, etc... And I've paid ~$800 for both rabbits and misc parts.) over 20k miles per year is ~6-8 cents per mile for the rabbit. The truck's more expensive, but I'll likely only put insurance on it and drive it when I need it. The nighthawk should be about the same as the rabbit. Worst case scenario is I drive the rabbit like everyone else and only get 50mpg, so the cost jumps to ~8-10 cents per mile. :thumbup: It sucks, but unless I knock down at least 20k miles per year a legal'ish VO system/permit is not financially worthwhile. I may try for a hook-up from one of the heavy VO users/collectors since ~100 gallons may be able to get me through a year of ~8k miles. :D

Man some of you guys are paying next to nothing for insurance! Guess I need to drive MORE to lower my cost per mile since the oil changes are taken care of and insurance cost is fixed.

Price of the '02 Saturn SL2 $7,000
12 month/12k ext warranty $900
Cost to register $58
Maintenance $200
($100 deductible on ABS service. Tranny fluid and
engine cooland change at last oil change)

Oil changes $160
Fuel est. 35 MPG $2.50/gallon $1180
6 months insurance (full) $650
Miles driven 16,500

Cost per mile $0.62
Going down since I've started hypermiling to over 38 MPG

D'oh! I forgot to factor in changing the spark plugs - $12 for OEM NGK (no biggie there)
Tires! Goodyear Integrity All-season (not a winter tire by any means)=$280
Hankook Winter iPike (wonderful snow tires compared to the Goodyears)=$270

That's bumped up my cost per mile. I should be able to get another 2 years out of the Goodyears and 4 - 5 years on the snow tires driven on 3 months a year.

Oh, and I've owned the car since I bought it. No payments. Yeah!

I figure I am at about .24 cents a mile on the sable, thats for 1 year and includes $1000 depreciation ( just took a wild guess on that)
I would be down around .14 per mile without dep.

6 months of gas = $475.44
6 months of maintenance = $60 (giving $10/mo)
6 months of registration = $24
6 months of insurance = $218.88
Distance driven in last 6 months = 8622.485 miles

Depreciation (Paid $1500, driven 65,000 miles) = $0.02 per mile

Cost per mile for last 6 months = $.09/mile

Cost per mile with depreciation = $0.11 / mile

(this is for the Beater, not the Beat)

Not taking depreciation into consideration, here's mine:

Miles/Year: 20,800
Insurance/Year: $800
Maintenence/Year: $150
Registration/Year: $200
Gas Cost/Year @ 33 MPG (conservative): $2,048 @ today's $3.25/gal 87 octane.

Total Yearly Expense: $3,198

Cost/Mile: $3,198 / 20,800 = 15.4 Cents ballpark figure

I plan to drive the 2007 Yaris until it drops, I suspect around 250,000 miles, so I really don't car about depreciation, as I will never sell it.

Why is registration $200 a year? Ouch. No note payment?

Well, then, that gives you your depreciation answer right there. For example, $14,000 purchase price divided by 250,000 miles is 5.6 cents per mile. You are doing way better than a guy who buys an Expedition, holds it for three years, and then sells it. That guy would be something like $13000 depreciation over 45000 miles, for 29 cents per mile in depreciation alone. Ouch.

depreciation is whats keeping mine up there. just bought it last june and i have only driven 5500 miles. without factoring that in i'm between .25-.3 per mile right now.

Nothing is cheaper for a few thousand miles per year than a bicycle or moped. :D

I paid for the car cash, as it was just $13,100 new. As for the registration, blame it on the Califormia legislature :-(

I was that Expedition guy! :D

I dumped mine at 36,000 as it was in the shop too much...but those were the bad old low MPG days....today things are much different! :D

Wisconsin only requires auto insurance if you are under 18, or have had your lisence suspended for DUI, last I checked I think there were 18 or 20 states that still didn't require insurance.
I do have car insurance, and I used to have motorcyle insurance, but I would be paying as much on my motorcycle as I do on my car, and have less coverage, and it would go way way up if I wanted bodly injury coverage, and even with that would only cover $1,000 of medical bills, so I droped it, it's a 125cc 200lb motorcycle that tops out at 60mph.

even with a moped getting 100 mpg, and costing $1,000 new, you will still spend over 12 and a half cents per mile if you own it for 10,000 miles, then add on tires, oil, light bulbs... sure it will be cheaper then alot of cars, and parking is cheaper (at least here state law asks that you park them on sidewalks when there is room) and alot more fun, so if the choice is a sports car, or a moped, get a moped, besides, girls love them.

Only if you toss it off a cliff after 10,000 miles. ;) Even those new $800 50cc mopeds will probably be worth $500 after a year/10k miles the way gas prices are. Three oil changes, along with an air filter, maybe fuel filter, and maybe... tires could be from a hundred to a few hundred, and insurance would be the most expensive part. But even w/ all that I think it'd only be ~7-10 cents per mile. When you get into the used market, the depreciation will be very small compared to the other costs, so the cost will probably drop by a few cents. :thumbup:

Wow, there are states that don't require insurance? That's nuts!

I thought the same thing when I learned that most states can sell alcohol on Sundays!

You can't buy alcohol at grocery or convenience stores in Pennsylvania. You have to go to specific beer/alcohol stores.

The chevrolet prizm actually appreciated 2,000 dollars over the past few years due to it being an exact clone of the toyota corolla (same engine, wheelbase, tranny, etc). I believe the only chevy thing on the car was the radio and the emblems. Just though i'd say that:p

My 1997 VW Passat wagon (with gasoline V6) was on a local Craig's for a month at $3300.
I removed the V6 (sold for $500) and installed a diesel (cost $800).
I realistically think I could sell the car within 24 hours for in excess of $5000, or within a week for over $7000.
And my 1969 is still worth over 3 times its initial sales price (not adjusted for inflation).

problem is, alot of the mopeds, and scooters run very small high speed 2 stroke engines, and altho the good ones have parts to rebuild them avalible, the $800 scooters normaly don't have any parts avalible, at least not the brand new ones that I've worked on.
so a scooter or moped might still be good after 10,000 miles, but they are not built for the long haul, suspention pivits are normaly steel on steel without greese zerks, shocks get replaced as a unit not rebuilt, the frame is stamped sheet metal with spot welds... I haven't seen very many with 10,000 miles on them.


And on the topic of cars going up in value, it happens, I owned a 1982 vw pickup truck, the ones based off the rabbit, owned it for a number of years and sold it for more then I paid for it, and I haven't seen one sell for even close to as little as I sold mine for.
my civic VX, I figure I could sell it for $500 more then I paid for it on Ebay two years ago, same with my CRX HF, or '83 civic DX, really, the question should be, unless you plan to own a vehicle for the rest of it's usefull life, why wouldn't you choose one that is going to go up in value if you take care of it?

I just figured out that my geo has, or is close to paying for itself thru gas savings :D . This is compared to the buick it replaced that got 27 mpg regularly. My geo only cost $250 though :) .

Dollars per mile is really where it's at for me. Saving money is the main (only?) reason I'm a gas saver.

Just an update to my current $/mile. The attached chart is only $/mile due to gasoline purchases for the time that I have kept records. The red dashed line is a running average.

My $/mile has actually increased by $.02/mile since April (previously $.11 per mile). Here's the breakdown in $ per mile:

Gasoline: $.0599
Maintenance (estimated $160/yr): $.0129
Registration (estimated $48/yr): $.0039
Insurance (estimated $420/yr): $.0340
Depreciation ($1500 / 68,000 miles): $.0221

TOTAL: $.1328

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