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Erdrick 04-05-2007 09:55 PM

Japan user
 
I am currently living in Japan. I am originally from America, but after graduating from college I decided that I wanted to get some work experience in Japan. I live in Toyota city...

... but I drive a Mitsubishi. It is what is classified as a kei car. Basically that means that it is lightweight, and has a 660 CC engine. It is a Minica, and it supposedly should be getting around 22.5 km/l. That works out to 53 MPG. Not too shabby... until you consider that the Japanese government testing for fuel consumption is worse than the US method. I get around 18-20 km/l depending on driving conditions. This is purely city driving with lots of stop and go traffic. I start working in a new area from the beginning of next week, so things could change drastically!

Oh, my company got the car for me, so I can't complain too much. They cost about $4000 (USD) brand new. I can't imagine that there is a more basic car than this bad boy.

cfg83 04-05-2007 11:05 PM

Erdrick -

Welcome! You are "in the soup" of small cars! The closest I get to those are the Japanese car magazines I get on sale in LA.

Free Kei Car!?!?! Coolio.

CarloSW2

GasSavers_DaX 04-06-2007 06:08 AM

Welcome Erdrick! I also drive a Kei car! I have a 1991 Honda Beat. I know what you mean about the "claimed" mileage. Honda claims (on the infamous 10 mode) that I should be getting around 63 mpg! I typically get around 40.

Start a garage entry and get some pictures up of your Mitsu!

MetroMPG 04-06-2007 06:38 AM

Welcome Erdrick. Looking forward to learning about your vehicle.

kickflipjr 04-06-2007 07:08 AM

https://www.din.or.jp/~ymko/photo-in/minica.jpg

So you car is similar to this? I am glad to see different types of cars on the site.

BeeUU 04-06-2007 07:31 AM

Welcome
 
I cant wait to hear about your driving experiences from Japan. Often we refer to the "small cars from Japan", it will be nice to have your opinion on them as well.

Welcome aboard!!

Hockey4mnhs 04-06-2007 08:04 AM

Welcome to the site!

ELF 04-06-2007 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=Erdrick;46322 I live in Toyota city...

... but I drive a Mitsubishi. :eek: They cost about $4000 (USD) brand new. .[/QUOTE]

Hey welcome! New car that gets good mileage for $4000 ? WOW :thumbup:

SVOboy 04-06-2007 09:01 AM

Welcome, where is toyota city? I'll be in chiba this summer, :)

Matt Timion 04-06-2007 09:35 AM

does my n600 classify as a kei car? 598cc and hella small.

Anyway, welcome to the site :)

UfoTofU 04-06-2007 09:44 AM

Welcome to the site!

I've spent summers there when I was a kid down on Honshu in Yamaguchi Prefecture as well as a year abroad in university in Sapporo City up in Hokkaido. I loved it!

Matt Timion 04-06-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UfoTofU (Post 46375)
...as well as a year abroad in university in Sapporo City...

Now THAT's a city I could visit.

cfg83 04-06-2007 10:41 AM

Matt -

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Timion (Post 46372)
does my n600 classify as a kei car? 598cc and hella small.

Anyway, welcome to the site :)

It would today, but not when it was built :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car

It would have to be 360 CC to qualify back then.

CarloSW2

Erdrick 04-06-2007 09:09 PM

DaX: Yeah, the 10 mode is insane. They claim that the Prius can get in the 70MPG range. Anyways, for the average person this would be impossible, but with some skills it might be attainable.

kickflipjr: THAT is the car. Mine is white though, and it came with a one speaker AM radio (speaker was in the actual radio). That is the only option. AC is standard in all Japanese cars... if I am not mistaken. Otherwise the car is the most stripped down thing in the world.

UfoTofU: Why did you used to spend summers in Japan? Do you have family here?

cfg83: I can back that statement up. Kei cars used to be 360CC. I believe that they might have had a previous even smaller engine before that too. I can't imagine having anything smaller than 660 though. Even that is ridiculously underpowered. Having a 1000CC engine would probably end up saving gas. Most people have to floor their Keis in order to keep up with traffic. I can always hear them driving past because the engines constantly sound like they are going to explode!

UfoTofU 04-07-2007 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erdrick (Post 46472)

UfoTofU: Why did you used to spend summers in Japan? Do you have family here?

Yes, my mother is from there so every few years we would take a trip back with her.

GasSavers_James 04-07-2007 08:46 AM

Welcome to the site. I wish they sold cars like that here. It would be nice to have one comunally owned for zipping to town, and getting 60-80MPG. I think that to get really good MPG with one of those, you would have to keep speed under 40 MPH. Above that, the engine is probably spinning too fast, and aerodynamics get to be a problem. Have you tried the engine off coast? That may help your MPG significantly along with maintaining maximum momentum.

kickflipjr 04-07-2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Otherwise the car is the most stripped down thing in the world.
So you don't get the luxuries of FM radio, Hubcaps, or 2 Speakers :)

Lug_Nut 04-07-2007 03:21 PM

A few years ago I was working for an importer and distributor of Japanese industrial machinery. I was in Osaka walking along the Shinsaibashi one afternoon. In the span of an hour I saw my first F-50, my first V12 Mercedes, a left hand drive Daimler Princess (never officially exported from UK apparently), but these paled to the thrill I got from first hearing the shrill skriek, and then seeing a MMC Minica ZZ with the 5 valve engine.
Maybe it was the mundane sea of "Joy Pop"s and "Sunny Excellent"s that made these others stand out so much.


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