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I bike to work mostly, but on weekends, I use the car to get around all over...I mostly had manuals all my life (age 47) but these days I'd rather let the car do the shifting and even with that I get great mpg... |
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And it's also sort of a case of the automatics being tweaked to get good mileage in the EPA test, with less concern for real life.
I think that in the next ten years we will see huge amounts of progress in the efficiency of automatics. |
CVT Excitement
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I recall a car mag or show testing a CVT vs. Manual (Nissan Versa maybe ???) and the manual ended up with better FE. In this case, it took more energy to operate - even though it kept the engine in the most efficient range of load, RPM, etc. A regular auto wasn't available for comparison. To be honest, the CVT is an entirely underwhelming experience to drive. :thumbdown: Give it some throttle, and blah. Less feedback to the driver as is the case these days... |
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I've driven my step father's '06 Civic hybrid a few times - Even in sport mode, the transmission takes forever to let the engine rev up to a speed where it's making a useful amount of power. I'll be more interested when they produce a version that, in response to throttle input, can go from 1 to 6k RPM in a second or two. As is, when I mash the pedal to (try to) accelerate quickly, I keep expecting it to downshift like a normal auto, bringing a boost in power. But no, the engine just drones away, ever so gradually gaining RPM while the car slowly glides up to speed. |
They need to include some kind of "autostick" feature on the CVT, except make it like a continuous sliding switch instead of up/down shifts.
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But yeah, manual control separate from the throttle could be interesting. I would worry that a simple slider would be too easy to accidentally bump into a less than ideal setting, or that mounting it in a convenient location would require making it too small to adjust precisely. Using a set of up/down shift buttons like those in use now would probably be more practical. Just set them up so they lower or raise the gear ratio when you hold them down. Maybe make them pressure sensitive like the buttons on modern game console controllers... Press harder and the ratio changes faster. Such discussion also begs the question: How useful would manual control of a CVT actually be? I suppose you could modulate engine torque output while keeping it at a fixed RPM, but how useful would that really be? I'm having a hard time thinking of a set of conditions where manual control would be advantagious when compared to computer control. |
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just rent me a manual
I rented a Ford Fusion recently (review pending) and it had the annoying "Low" gear selector like most cars anymore, instead of "3, 2, 1". So, with the 5-speed auto, if you're cruising along at 40 and shift it into L for an extra boost (for example on steep hills or on gravel), it downshifts to 2nd and if you get too slow, it lurches into 1st at around 25 without warning. It's also weird from L to D from 2nd -- clunk, clunk, clunk and you're back into 5th. (no O/D on-off) Also the rolling shift to Neutral to try and coast resulted in a jarring disengagement vibration. Good grief.
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