Don't buy gas from Exxon or Mobile
Well I got this e-mail for the zillion time and instead of deleting it I decided to send this reply back.
I don't see this working. The only way to lower prices is to reduce our consumption, period! Although not a totally free market the thing with gasoline is that there is plenty of oil sitting at the refiners they just can't turn it over fast enough because we have not built a refinery in 30+ years. Although prices continue to go up the demand has continued to increase also. Until "we" the general public reduces our demand, drive more fuel effient cars and look to alternate energy it will be the same old same old. If you really want to hurt the oil companies send 50 emails to your freinds and tell them to try and reduce their fuel consumption by 10% this week and try to increase more each week. Although 10% sounds like a lot just by having the car in good mechanical shape, tires at proper inflation pressures, and DRIVING AT OR BELOW the posted speed limit will put money in the bank and out of the Oil companies pockets. Here's a link (https://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp) on this e-mail that's been floating around since gas prices hit $2.00 a gallon. People still just don't get it. It's always someone else fault.:( edit: Moderators if you need to move this to general feel free to. |
I know lots of folks, myself included, who haven't bought exxon or mobil gas since the exxon valdez catastrophe. ZP is absotootly right: it hasn't stopped them from being the highest profiting company in the world, now has it? :(
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If there was a sustained 10% reduction in motor gasoline consumption, that would make a big difference in prices. Not just for gasoline, but for diesel, home heating oil, jet fuel, etc. It would be great to see that happen.
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If every one of those silly gas "boycott" emails instead told people to slow down, pump up their tires to max sidewall and not race from one traffic light to the next, they would be a lot more helpful.
In fact I think I'm going to prepare a canned email to that effect and forward it to as many people as possible when I get one of those emails. Maybe put in a plug for gassavrs.org and cleanmpg.com while I'm at it. |
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Do what Brucepick says and promote high MPG driving habits. Lower demand and that will cut their profit from 10 billion per quarter to maybe only 5 billion ( :( ). CarloSW2 |
Allow me to push this politically-charged thread into the General Discussion zone.
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And having said all that, I also agree that consumers have the ultimate power and that we should exercise our influences on the market. |
I haven't allowed anyone in my family to go to Exxon since 1989. I don't remember this, but my parents tell me that when I was 3 years old I used to yell out the window at people getting gas at Exxon.
Things haven't changed much. I still refuse to buy anything from ExxonMobil, but for other environmental and humanitarian reasons that I won't go into here. Their business practices are well documented and can be easily found online. They aren't making as much of a profit as we like to believe. If they were making 0% profit, gas prices will only drop by a few cents. |
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This is astounding to me since from a risk vs. return standpoint exploring for oil, buying illiquid capital plant equipment, and dealing with unstable governments would seem far riskier than lending money (which should be fairly easily nailed down by actuaries). |
i get those emails many many times. they just tell you to dont buy gas on a certain day or company, so they will understand how much profit they will loose if no one bought gas......
BUT it doesnt work because the oil companies are just laughing because, they know you will be back at the pump sooner or later becase "millions" of people didnt pump on that certain day. only way to solve the problem is to drive better or stop driving at all |
Good point (the latter half of your post). I like to make the people who invented "Big Oil" and "Big Pharma" regret it by slapping "Big" onto the front of ANYTHING. E.g. Big Corn, Big Lawyers, Big Teachers, Big Unions, Big Immigrants, Big Government, Big Banks, Big Casinos, Big Burgers, Big Beer, Big Tobacco...
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Who makes more profit from a gallon of gasoline? ExxonMobil or the Government?
Hint: It isn't even close. Another hint: They REALLY don't give a crap about the consumer or this would change. -Bob C. |
I hate Big Grocery. Have you seen the prices on artichokes, red bell peppers, and asparagus lately? :-)
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Mobil pretty much controls all the oil base stocks, they sell to almost all the major oil companies, every thing from group I to group V. they even sell basestocks to smaller companies like amsoil. I am not sure how much of the gas market they control, but it is safe to assume that it is impossible not to buy from them, more than likely they supply many smaller no name brands with gas, not to mention if no one bought there gas they would just sell it to shell or some other big company. |
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Citgo people, Citgo. I'd much rather support a government-owned company that invests in social programs both at home and abroad than a greedy multinational corporation.
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found this thread looking over the archives. it's a good one, not for the boycott of exxon, but for the different views on oil profits. BTW, i believe it foolish for anyone to overlook mobile especially if there's is the lowest price. i've lifted my boycott for that reason.
i challenge anyone to search, then compare and contrast profit MARGINS of different industries. i believe the "rough necks" extracting and refining oil should be well compensated. as far as the execs, they're overpaid just as many(most?) large companies of ANY business are! and yes, oil is a huge money maker, for the US govt! and whose fault is it that the gov't and big oil are gettin' paid? the ones burning the fuel like there's no tomorrow, we the consumer. i particularly like the opening post(thread starter), which states, "it's always someone else's fault." for the most part, we cannot control the speculators, price of crude, and taxes; but we can control(limit) our usage! |
Damn, man, exactly one year bump. Nice old bump.
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i just buy gas from FS or BP, sometimes shell but thier always 2-3 cents higher...
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Lately I've been filling up at a Pilot Station and its been the cheapest I've seen anywhere. Right now its like 3.85 for 87. Woot, what a bargain [sarcam]
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