Integra cluster into 91 CRX....
 

Just a repost of what I have here :

https://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2124811

I know some members have done this swap and was wondering if either of my thoughts on this were valid or not.

Copy of post :

All of the info that I have managed to read on the topic states one thing pretty consistently and that is :

"Cut the plugs off the CRX side of the wiring harness and solder."

Is there a way around this?

Thought #1 -

- Re-use the plug on the Integra side of the cluster but solder extensions / pins onto the ends of the wires that plug into the CRX side of the harness.

Thought #2 -

- De-pin both the CRX side of the harness and the Integra side and put
the CRX wires into the Integra plug.

Will they fit?

Are either of these ideas feasible? I ask because I would like to be able to switch back to the stock cluster if I fell like and and not have it be as much of a nightmare to do so and deal with lots of soldering / de-soldering and short wires etc...

Just cut the CRX plugs off, it's not too messy...you could put it back if you save your plugs.

But do you think that it is possible to do either of the two alternative routes that I mentioned?

2 isn't possible, from what I remember. 1 might be but it's a serious pain in my opinion.

I'm not sure, but I think the pins are different.

Just strip some of the insulation off a couple inches up from the CRX connectors, then solder in the wires from the integra clips. You'll have both clips so you can swap back to stock if you want. Only concern would be the extra space for the CRX clips.

I decided to de-pin the CRX side of the wires, leave the clips on and attach the Integra wires directly to the CRX clips.

I've got most of it done but I am now at a standstill.

Working Lights -

- Turn signals (right and left)
- Hazards
- High Beam
- Seatbelt Light
- Battery Light
- CEL
- Oil Light
- Hatch Light
- E-Brake Light

Working Gauges -
- Tach
- Fuel
- Temp

I have not yet hooked up the speedometer.

Now the problem..... The Cluster lights behind the speedo, tach, fuel gauge and the temp gauge are non functional. Because the above light and gauges all work I don't think that it is a ground issue.

I have checked -
- Ground
- Checked fuses and they are fine
- Looked for burnt contacts on the cluster and found none
- Have all of the hazard, dimmer, and defrost switches plugged in

Any help is much appreciated.

I've tried hooking up the red w/ black stripe Integra wire as well as the plain red wire to both the red and the red/black of the CRX side with no results.

Just to make sure they were getting juice I hooked up the e-brake light and that worked no prob so I know it is at least getting juice.

I highly doubt that all 3 of the main illumination bulbs burnt out.

Now that I think back about having this same problem, I feel like I fixed it by moving the ground around or trying out other grounds...perhaps.

It's worth a shot at least.

So try one other than the one that is on the CRX side of the plug?

I'll probably just tap into the dash mounting frame or something.

I think the issue (for me) was that there was a ground for just the lighting that was separate from the ground I thought existed, so I had to play around to find it...

All that I see for grounds are a black wire on the CRX side and a black wire on the Integra side. I attached the two together.

I don't see any other wires that would be a ground. Maybe I will try attaching the Integra ground to a part of the body?

I spose you could try, but it's my gut that there was some ground issue that involved multiple grounds...it'll be dark outside by the time I can get to my car...(until saturday) so I'm no direct help...wish I did a write up on it.

No more working on it tonight.

Going to first check all the bulbs tomorrow.

https://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...SH200/16-8.pdf

Then check ground "g401" and hope one of those is the culprit.

Well I don't know what happened overnight but I tried it again this morning and Voila! the lights now work.

I didn't do anything other than go out to the garage and try hooking up the same wires again and it worked this time.

Even the dimmer works.

I worked my wizard powers...

Actually though, I never got the dimmer to work (not that I bothered), so lucky you.

Yah everything I read said the dimmer wouldn't work.

I tested everything and it all worked as it is supposed to so I am happy.

Now to get my VSS out.

SVO -
How did you power your VSS?

Pretty sure I just spliced it into whatever 12v I could find that only drew power with the key on...if you're going to EOC a lot with the MID you might want to give it constant or it's own switch or something, that way the mid will still read when the key isn't in the run position (not that that's a huge amount of time when you're EOCing anyway). I don't know what kind of draw it would have on the battery if you always left it on though...

Got the VSS out.

I decided to muckle onto it with a pair of vice-grips from the side and wiggle it back and forth with a punch of PB Blaster. Before I was just trying to pull / pry it out. This method seemed to work much better.

Here are the pics.

Unfortunately no pics before when I de-pinned all of the CRX side. Not really necessary I guess.

Pics speak for themselves pretty much.

https://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07424/cluster1.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07424/cluster3.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07424/cluster2.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster4.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster5.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster6.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster7.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster8.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster9.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster10.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster11.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster12.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster13.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs320.xs.to/xs320/07424/cluster14.jpg.xs.jpg

Looks familiar. :)
Amber bulbs? My climate control doesn't look nearly as white in comparison.
If you find an elegant method of mounting the cluster, be sure to post it up.

Not amber, just plain white color.

I think that my camera throws off the appearance a little bit.

About mounting it I actually wedged it in there really tight without cutting off tabs on either side of the Teg cluster. Coupled with the cluster cover it sits in there really tight.

One thing that I might do is trim the corners of the cluster cover so the fuel and temp gauges aren't obscured.

Not amber eh? What year is the cluster from? Mine looks green.

I think it came out of a 94 Integra LS. I can't remember for sure.

Nah, it's gotta be newer than that... My cluster came out of a '94. It didn't have a lens, so I actually ended up getting a '96 (maybe '97) cluster from the junkyard for it's lens... A used cluster was cheaper than buying a new lens from Acura. The odo of the lens donor has almost 208k miles on it, so I used the older cluster with the newer lens.
Getting back to the point, the '96 cluster has those same little fins between the odometer digits that yours has, but my '94 cluster lacks.

Used the original grommet in the firewall from the cable VSS to run the electronic VSS wires, 3 total, power, signal and ground. Ground went to the dashboard frame, power I spliced into one of the power lines already going to the cluster and the signal I split into two and ran one to the cluster and one to the original VSS line that ran to the ECU.

https://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07425/cluster15.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07425/cluster17.jpg.xs.jpghttps://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07425/cluster18.jpg.xs.jpg

Wire-loomed the wires and taped it all up good.

https://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07425/cluster19.jpg.xs.jpg

Here is how it sits now. I did the install without cutting off either of the mounting tabs on the Integra cluster. I managed to wedge it in there really tight and ended up using good ol' zip-ties for added security.

https://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07425/cluster20.jpg.xs.jpg

All in all it wasn't too bad of a project. I have almost no experience with wiring hence why I wanted to either keep the CRX plugs in there or make it easy to revert back to it if need be.

I recommend this to anyone who thinks that they can do it. Just be sure to read up a lot on it beforehand.