bowtieguy -

I never saw a four door HX, only the 2 door coupes.

CarloSW2

thanks carlos.

thank you. i need a more efficient daily driver. the kids ride w/ me only once or twice/week usually short trips. i'm gettin 28-29mpg+ w/ my olds. an accord would not be enough of FE increase--at least not to warrant giving up $ for one.

Maybe a corolla, or a 4 door civic may satisfy you then. If you get a civic dx with a D16b7 engine, you will be able to get 55+ mpg if tuned correctly like transzex, a member of D-series.org. Check out the site, research around how he managed to squeeze out 130whp on his D16b7 project and still managed to get 55mpg. The threads are a bit scattered, so be patient. :p

https://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78385

I second pyramid_head, don't take a Corolla out of the mix. Great car with very comparable mileage to a Civic and a nicer condition one can be had for the same amount of $$$. I just let my 01 go for $4k. Under 100k on it too.

thank you. good stuff. trying to balance my needs($ and safety), trying not to rush while at the same time buy ASAP as a co-worker is interested in my olds. he needs a car soon because his car has mechanical issues.

I would say to go with a Toyota Corrola, the Corrola should get 40mpg or better, and if you get a 5 speed, it should be extreamly low matence, plenty of room in the back seat (I've sat back their, 6' tall, 240lb's), I really like Honda's, but the 4 door modles have a slugish feel to them, and their mileage is pretty lousy, another option is the Scion XB, they look smaller, but are rather roomy inside altho they might still be new enough that the're a bit pricy.

thanks. looking @ the toyota corolla twin, prizm. seems to be more affordable.

I got lucky in Nov 07 buying a 1999 Honda Civic HX from Craigslist for $3800 after taxes and license. Had 99,300 miles, and short ram intake, short shifter, and catback exhaust. Gets me 42 mpg avg doing 2 days city / 5 days hwy driving. It's only a 2 dr, but it moved 5 adults well + their luggage and wasn't sluggish.