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93dagsr 05-05-2008 08:18 AM

intake resonator
 
ok so last week while i was putting on my new bumper, i thought it would be ok to take off my resonator. i was down there anyways so why not right? well all in all it was a success besides the part that im starting to lose my fe! :thumbdown: i thought that restriction was the enemy of fe? i had the idea that the more free flowing the intake and exhaust the better the fe and power would be!? check out my garage and let me know what you guys think. im going to keep it on for a while just to see what happens. :confused:

holypaulie 05-05-2008 09:00 AM

If you remove intake resonator you will lose low-end torque. Another words your car will lose power in low RPMs. I've done it and that's what happend to me.

dosco 05-05-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 93dagsr (Post 98072)
ok so last week while i was putting on my new bumper, i thought it would be ok to take off my resonator.

Not sure exactly what you mean by "resonator."

Most modern cars have an intake "resonator" that looks like tubes folded over themselves. In some cars they're metal, I think in newer ones they're plastic.

They function to increase the intake charge pressure by acoustic resonance ... in the 4 cylinder cars I've owned, they kick in at 2,500 RPM or so, and their peak function corresponds with the peak torque.

I wouldn't recommend that you remove it. You're probably better off changing your driving technique.

GasSavers_SD26 05-05-2008 09:08 AM

Might have something to do with intake velocity.

93dagsr 05-05-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by holypaulie (Post 98074)
If you remove intake resonator you will lose low-end torque. Another words your car will lose power in low RPMs. I've done it and that's what happend to me.

yea i kinda felt that.

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Originally Posted by dosco (Post 98074)
Not sure exactly what you mean by "resonator."

Most modern cars have an intake "resonator" that looks like tubes folded over themselves. In some cars they're metal, I think in newer ones they're plastic.

They function to increase the intake charge pressure by acoustic resonance ... in the 4 cylinder cars I've owned, they kick in at 2,500 RPM or so, and their peak function corresponds with the peak torque.

I wouldn't recommend that you remove it. You're probably better off changing your driving technique.

exactly that. its the tube/box that goes from the intake filter to the wheel well and into the engine bay. i guess its kind of like a wai in a way. i am going to try and be a little more conservative with my driving with the intake resonator off to see what i can get from it. if i like it it will stay off if not then i will definitely put it back on.

dosco 05-05-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 93dagsr (Post 98095)
i am going to try and be a little more conservative with my driving with the intake resonator off to see what i can get from it. if i like it it will stay off if not then i will definitely put it back on.

You've noticed the loss in power.


BTW, would the FI be mapped to include the resonator? Is it possible that you're now running at a non-optimal fuel/air ratio?

Keep us posted on any FE changes.

93dagsr 05-05-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dosco (Post 98098)
You've noticed the loss in power.


BTW, would the FI be mapped to include the resonator? Is it possible that you're now running at a non-optimal fuel/air ratio?

Keep us posted on any FE changes.

lol yea i noticed the difference big time in taking off the resonator. especially in first gear trying to take off! :thumbdown:

thats what i was thinking and i talked to one of my car guys tuner (helped tune the first honda into the 10.5 sec mark in my town :eek: ) and he said that by removing the ecu fuse it will reset the af map? i tried but saw no real difference? i want to buy a VAFC or a NEO to tune it and lean it up a little. but we'll see.

GasSavers_Ryland 05-05-2008 10:09 PM

What part of fluid dynamics don't you understand? Wouldn't it be cool if there was a way to make it so the air going in to the engine kept up it's momentum so the engine didn't have to work as hard to pull fresh air in? oh wait! they already did that and you removed that part! that piece of the air intake was there to help your car run better, sure you might be able to baby it to get your lost mileage back, and strips some weight out of the car so you don't notice the lack of power but why?

dosco 05-06-2008 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryland (Post 98190)
that piece of the air intake was there to help your car run better, sure you might be able to baby it to get your lost mileage back, and strips some weight out of the car so you don't notice the lack of power but why?

Paralysis induced by overanalysis.

GasSavers_RoadWarrior 05-06-2008 07:44 AM

Hmmm, just thinking about intake resonator type devices... I wonder if it's possible to make one that takes up the momentum of high speed intake air, at higher RPM, say 5000 or so and gives it "somewhere to go" such that you can run much weaker intake valve springs and not get valve float...


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