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mirinae 06-13-2008 12:28 PM

from 27.87 MPG to 71.43 MPG!!!!
 
Right then, I've got a 1969 Landrover Series 2a 2.25L Diesel. I put magnets on the fuel line and increased the mileage on a set 17 mile route at a steady 40mph to 27.87mpg. I then constructed the single cell system and fitted it. My first run was with the bubbler closed and on the set run increased my mileage to 28.84mpg. A positive start, but I felt that the engine was being starved of HHO. I then reduced the length of the two feed pipes going to the closest point on the air intake manifold to 4 feet each from five feet and opened up the bubbler to allow a moderate amount of air through. I then ran the same run (each run took 35 minutes) and compared the results. My 39 year old Landrover did 71.43mpg!!!!

In truth, I was hoping to achieve a modest 40mpg but this is unbelievable!!

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Water Car Run on Water+Fuel

GasSavers_Kraig 06-13-2008 12:39 PM

Details of what you did?

R.I.D.E. 06-13-2008 01:15 PM

Think I need my boots on.

regards
gary

Mayhim 06-13-2008 01:20 PM

Can't we rig something up that gives these guys a shock through the keyboard when they try to post that stuff?

dkjones96 06-13-2008 01:34 PM

Sometimes I wonder if this type of 'advertising' or 'marketing' actually ever works.

It had to somewhere right? Maybe?

kamesama980 06-13-2008 01:44 PM

aren't there mods with power to lock/remove threads?

AMX 06-13-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirinae (Post 105700)
Right then, I've got a 1969 Landrover Series 2a 2.25L Diesel. I put magnets on the fuel line and increased the mileage on a set 17 mile route at a steady 40mph to 27.87mpg. I then constructed the single cell system and fitted it. My first run was with the bubbler closed and on the set run increased my mileage to 28.84mpg. A positive start, but I felt that the engine was being starved of HHO. I then reduced the length of the two feed pipes going to the closest point on the air intake manifold to 4 feet each from five feet and opened up the bubbler to allow a moderate amount of air through. I then ran the same run (each run took 35 minutes) and compared the results. My 39 year old Landrover did 71.43mpg!!!!

In truth, I was hoping to achieve a modest 40mpg but this is unbelievable!!

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Water Car Run on Water+Fuel

Sure bud, we're not that gullible.

slogfilet 06-13-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirinae (Post 105700)
In truth, I was hoping to achieve a modest 40mpg but this is unbelievable!!


Yep, sure is.

1cheap1 06-13-2008 02:15 PM

mirinae, commit suicide and take the secrete with you.

thisisntjared 06-13-2008 03:48 PM

i bet you did....

theholycow 06-13-2008 04:29 PM

Go away, spammer.

We should really have better verification here. Other forums do.

BumblingB 06-13-2008 07:08 PM

Crack and the internet don't mix.

friz 06-13-2008 07:22 PM

Wow! I can't wait until I see the documents proving this wonder feat. I'm sure he will get the nobel prize for solving the world energy needs.

friz 06-13-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theholycow (Post 105735)
Go away, spammer.

We should really have better verification here. Other forums do.


I really doesn't help that these water for fuel people are allowed to advertise in the header.

cugir321 06-13-2008 07:31 PM

pew pew
 
Right. Anybody who believes this deserves to be disappointed. I'm testing a unit presently. I expect a little gain when I add the EFIE but other then that...with hydrogen, the only thing I get is more oil pressure on a 1992 jeep with 100k miles. MPG looks to be the same with the fuel cell on or off. Look at my garage post.

[QUOTE=mirinae;105700]Right then, I've got a 1969 Landrover Series 2a 2.25L Diesel. I put magnets on the fuel line and increased the mileage on a set 17 mile route at a steady 40mph to 27.87mpg. I then constructed the single cell system and fitted it. My first run was with the bubbler closed and on the set run increased my mileage to 28.84mpg. A positive start, but I felt that the engine was being starved of HHO. I then reduced the length of the two feed pipes going to the closest point on the air intake manifold to 4 feet each from five feet and opened up the bubbler to allow a moderate amount of air through. I then ran the same run (each run took 35 minutes) and compared the results. My 39 year old Landrover did 71.43mpg!!!!

In truth, I was hoping to achieve a modest 40mpg but this is unbelievable!!

GasSavers_ALS 06-13-2008 08:02 PM

Don't you just love these forty five year old, unemployed, over weight, bald guys, living in their parents basement. That push their Internet home scam business, hoping it is going to make them enough money to move out of their parents home.

Mike T 06-13-2008 08:07 PM

LOL what a crock of faeces!

VetteOwner 06-13-2008 09:08 PM

haah as soon as i saw magnets on the fuel line i knew it was BS :D

goofy1 06-14-2008 01:20 AM

someone get the plunger while i get my boots. phew it stinks in here

quadancer@bellsouth.net 06-14-2008 04:53 AM

I gotta send the magnets back??? ;P
I'm an HHO fanatic myself, but this moron should be executed.
Mister, stop wasting people's time.

hybriDatsun350 06-14-2008 09:58 AM

Excellent first post! At least we all got a laugh out of it! :D

alfonso2501 06-14-2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirinae (Post 105700)
...I put magnets on the fuel line and increased the mileage on a set 17 mile route at a steady 40mph to 27.87mpg....

good for youuuu!

GasSavers_maxc 06-14-2008 11:09 AM

First and last post!

GasSavers_BEEF 06-14-2008 12:02 PM

threads like this is the reason that HHO gets a terrible reputation. I still have major issues with the way people say it works.

fuel to the fire my friend.

fuel to the fire

theholycow 06-14-2008 02:41 PM

Indeed. This is exactly the sort of thing that causes me to be skeptical, and my skepticism is only mitigated by the DIYers providing information on doing it on a zero budget...

ShadowWorks 06-14-2008 07:03 PM

Can you post details of your HHO system and its parts, maybe you have something better than anything most people have, any pictures or videos of your work?

snydertalon 06-15-2008 02:31 PM

Not saying I've ever done it
 
Or that the OP is not exaggerating, but

~Adding aero mods to your car wont help you
~Driving slow does not affect our Gas mileage, I get the same at 85 as I do at 70
~Your only saving a few pennies per gallon with all the coasting you do

Are all things the guys at work tell me, but I average 25%(ish) over EPA(35.5), and have gotten as high as 60% over EPA(44). I still drive the way I do to beat the EPA estimate for my car(28) and I am still willing to try and find new things.

And honestly, there is just as much EVIDENCE to support that HHO will work as there is to support its failure. You can throw numbers around all you want, and get the numbers you want to say what you want. I won't understand advanced calculations on the different chemical reactions with and without HHO and the strain on the alternator, etc.

I will understand an ABA test on the same route after the car is warmed up. I would even understand if you were to have your last 20 tanks standard deviation and 5 tanks with an HHO using stats to prove that the increase is still within the bounds of your last 20 tanks of measurements. But I would think that the people here, of all forums, would welcome new ideas and not insult them.

I am geographically separated from my car for the next month, and in that time I will find how to build one, and I will test it. And I will not post any information on here because of how closed minded everyone is.

I know I know, go ahead and flame, you guys are so funny, lets all grab some boots.

quadancer@bellsouth.net 06-15-2008 06:48 PM

I'm sure most welcome new ideas, results and so forth, and there will always be naysayers to anything new as well. But when someone posts something so blatantly exaggerated as to be laughable...that's what people with any sense will do.
I've seen some of the HHO naysayers become believers; one on this website. All you have to do is research it. I'll be posting my results soon as well, not because I need to brag or be noticed, but because I believe in the technology and am willing to share it. Just finished the wiring tonight. I'll post my results, good or bad, in order to be a benefit and not waste people's time with trash.

GasSavers_BEEF 06-15-2008 07:17 PM

did I just read that aero doesn't work!!!!!!!

I guess we need to tell basjoos to take off the boat tail because his coefficient drag of 0.17 isn't helping him a bit. and metrompg has been wrong all this time.

people brag about 40+ but really look around before you start talking. these guys are getting 60+ mpg for an AVERAGE!!!!!. not one run of a few miles not at an instance of highway mileage.

I think the most insulting thing is that they come with these outrageous claims with little to no information. a small sample of data which consists of a few miles and we have a guy that has built one that actually agrees with the masses that he is getting minimal gains at best.

it also doesn't help that almost everyone that has these claims finishes a post with "check out my website" or "I liked it so much, I am selling them now".

the fact that you don't understand the reactions or the draw on the alternator (and probably don't care enough to research it and find out) means you will probably be dissapointed too that your gas mileage hasn't DOUBLED overnight.

theholycow 06-16-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snydertalon (Post 106033)
And honestly, there is just as much EVIDENCE to support that HHO will work as there is to support its failure.

And I will not post any information on here because of how closed minded everyone is.

There's lots of HHO fans on this forum. Nobody seems to mind HHO discussions here, it's the spam that we have a problem with. It's one thing to post about building a DIY HHO unit and getting 10% or 20% increase in mileage; it's entirely different for a new user's first post to be "We doubled our mileage, go to this website" and the website is another snake oil miracle product sales page...

ShadowWorks 06-16-2008 09:26 AM

I don't believe in mocking people, it is rude and unnecessary in a civilised forum, its a school boy mentality.

I just want to know if this guy has cracked something by accident, most of the great discovers are accidents, a good proverb, if your cup is full you can't have any more tea.

quadancer@bellsouth.net 06-16-2008 07:11 PM

You may have a point there bud; I just personally get tired of wasting study time running into useless videos, posts and erroneous info. Now down under, those Aussies are making some WILD claims with the water works. It would seem that one fella has some form of electrolyser that turns the water itself into burnable fuel. There's several others that are onto it as well, but their test methodology...well...let's say the 'ol jeep behind the barn was the whole labratory. One guy had a 350 Suzuki he rode around on after a mechanic examined the bike and the reporter drank some of the water before it was run thru the electrolyser. Then it ran the bike. I don't know what to think.

samandw 06-16-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadancer@bellsouth.net (Post 106311)
One guy had a 350 Suzuki he rode around on after a mechanic examined the bike and the reporter drank some of the water before it was run thru the electrolyser. Then it ran the bike. I don't know what to think.

Vodka?:p

dkjones96 06-16-2008 07:57 PM

Has anyone on here been tracking their mileage and then installed HHO and actually saw an upward trend in their gas log? We harassed that stupid Ethos sucker for not having that but I think a lot of our normal members pull that with their 'mods'.

GasSavers_JoeBob 06-16-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadancer@bellsouth.net View Post
One guy had a 350 Suzuki he rode around on after a mechanic examined the bike and the reporter drank some of the water before it was run thru the electrolyser. Then it ran the bike. I don't know what to think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by samandw (Post 106313)
Vodka?:p


Egads! That's alcohol abuse!

GasSavers_BEEF 06-17-2008 03:48 AM

if you check out "rolling box car" he has a sort of gas log that he has posted under his mods that shows what he has done.

Note: he is saying that he is seeing little to no change in mileage as stated earlier in this thread.

side note: when I have dones something new and have got (what I consider) great gains from it, I usually post my results and then make the disclaimer that I need to run a tank or two to make sure the numbers are valid. when I did my WAI I gained over 10% on that tank but through the next few tanks that number went down to 8-9% but those figures are over the course of 1000-1500 miles and not a 2 mile stretch of road that nobody knows the location of.

if anyone has "CRACKED THE CODE" then that is awesome, but I personally want to see data. not just one blind post that says I went from this to this. if you have been storing up data and logging it into a notebook or something then it would be easy to put it in a gas log for everyone to see. most of the guys that play with the HHOs for some reason don't like to start gas logs or collect data, they just like to boast about big numbers.


*edit* also worth noting, the original starter of this thread "mirinae" hasn't posted since. I guess he has put his link on this site and moved on to spam another site.


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