In the long run we'll have to find an energy source that is a powerful and as versatile as petroleum is or changing to it just won't work. Wind and solar are not powerful enough or versatile enough to do the trick, and are little better than add-ons. You can't grease your mower with hydrogen, nor can you use it in the tens of thousands of products and services made from or modified by oil and its by-products.
Nuclear is good in that it frees up natural gas for other things and is clean. It is safe and efficient, and if the greenies and their lawyers would leave them alone the power companies could build more new, smaller plants in a number of locales. Technologies have evolved from the 60's, even if the hippies haven't. To change the petroleum paradigm would require changing the world with something new and improved, and we simply dont' have a single equivalent energy source yet. New technologies are wonderful, and they will eventually have their days in the sun. But don't think for a moment that any new energies will be as cheap as, or cheaper than, oil was in it's cheap days. Energy companies are, by their nature, money-making companies. Any group of people in charge of such an important resource as energy will be sure they won't be left out of the Rich Sector. Why should they? They are in business to make money, and that's what they're doing. I don't like paying too much any more than anyone else, but this thing called petroleum will find it's price in a new and growing world economy regardless of the whining of Americans that still can't operate a soft gas pedal or brake pedal. It's the new world order that everyone is complaining about, and the operating manual is written in languages other than American English. And, most of all, changing everything for a not-well-fleshed-out utopian 60's kind of ideal seems kind of weak to me. The Co2 boogeyman is not what we should be spending our money on. |
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drilling for oil wil make a lot of rich people get richer, that's capitalism. it's also a fact though that drilling for more domestic oil will lower the deficit, increase supply - hence lower the price, and allo the US to be not at the mercy of the middle east. that's common sense. the law of supply and demand is universal, if we increase supply, the price will GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY and until you can find an economist that can prove that the law of supply and demand does not work there is no way in hell you can say so otherwise. Quote:
alternative energy STILL CAN NOT REPLACE oil 100%. show me how it can? you just can't! Quote:
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using some of that money to build electric gas stations would mean that we will have governemnt controlled enterprise. Socialism anyone? oh, wait, that's the main liberal agend in the first place, socialism. I agree, you don't have all the answers, you don't even have a clue as to how our economic system works. We are not practising socialism. capitalism works with private enterprise. in order for your "electric gas stations" can get built PRIVATE ENTERPRISE would need the fund to use for it. if you do not allow PRIVATE OIL COMPANIES to increase their revenues then they will be unable to convert the infrastructure to alternative energy. that is what you are missing! It is called private enterprise and the government need to allow them to make the money and not penalize them. Russia, China, and other oil companies that are outside of the US are all being allowed by their government to increase their revenue, hence you will find (if you would only do the research) that US oil companies ARE ACTUALLY SMALL COMPARED TO OIL COMPANIES OUTSIDE OF THE US. if we do not allow US oil companies to increase their revenues then we are doomed to repeated energy crisis. Quote:
I agree that Alternative energy needs to be increase, but you still can not see that there's no funds for it. if you socialize it (as you're implying) it will not work as efficiently (as any government entity has shown). if you want o live in a socialized system, move to China. Here in the US the system is capitalism and the government needs to work within that system. do some more research will you. |
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drilling for more domestic oil will have an instant effect on oil future prices. that's a fact. if drilling for more domestic oil will take time, alternative energy will take an even longer time! solar panels are only 18% efficient at best and the wind doesn't blow all the time, converting all cars to plug in electric cars in a very short time will put a strain on current power plants and will result in energy shortages. As I've said before the infrastructure is not there yet and you keep holding on to the pipe dream that we can convert everything quickly. We can not convert everything quickly. you can not and will not replace oil quickly as some of you are implying. again, if you can do so, prove it! [uiStop pretending like the technology isn't here! The technology has been up and running for over 20 years. Not only in other countries but right here in the states! Quote:
you're right, Congress does write blank checks and borrow money from Japan and China, and GUESS WHERE MOST OF THAT MONEY IS USED FOR? TO BUY OIL! again, the debate goes back to whether we're going to keep buying oil overseas or increase domestic drilling. Again you are so way off base with everything that you're saying. Quote:
refineries need maintenance. refineries within our borders are well over 30 YEARS OLD!!!! not one single new refinery have been built for 30 years! the current refineries we have are outdated and are aging. as any mechanic or engineer would tell you, the older the machinery the more maintenance you need!!!! again, you are so off base, do some more research! |
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Why did it take an oil crisis to cause GM and McCain to preach EV's to the American public? -I think the answer is that the American consumer had to feel the price at the pump to feel compelled to purchase an EV. The good news is that consumers are now buying hybrids faster than they can make them. The next step here is to see if Americans will purchase and use EV's. Once we can get a favorable answer we will be on our way to dependence on coal and wind. Until GM can make EV's, we are stuck drilling in the deep waters of my home state's coastline. |
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to the moveon.org crowd: PLEASE, by all means, MOVE ON!!! this planet is STILL quite spacious, go live somewhere else! |
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the question is - will they even consider moving to a socialized country and lose their liberties? at the very least, they will actually have plenty of stuff to protest about if they move to a socialist country. many of them demand that the governement does something, yet fail to realize that our economy works within the capitalistic system. why don't they just get out of the closet and declare what they are really asking for - a socialistic state. |
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MOST people cannot (or should not) buy a hybid or E car. this is precisely why i support a comprehensive plan to drill NOW and work towards alternative fuels as well. world economics is a delicate thing, cold turkey ain't gonna work! |
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People are paying a premium for Toyota Prius hybrids. They are used to purchasing overpriced automobiles, the H2 is a wonderful example of this. As time rolls on in the next 5 years, the US will transition it's vehicle fleet to electrics slooooowwwllly. We will pay an ever increasing premium for gasoline which will satisfy the middle east. Consuming their oil gives us a tactical edge, watch the "Road Warrior" for a first hand perspective of this. |
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just as the housing bubble did burst, so too will our endless over borrowing. loan approval is even now getting tight. how many could afford a fully electric vehicle tomorrow(if it were possible) anyway? same goes for the fuel prices. if no relief comes, we WILL have an economic crash. so many have cut back already, next will come massive stale consumer activity, then deeper recession, lastly depression(maybe worse than the first one). 5 years, NO WAY, i drive a truck for a living, won't happen. MAYBE, just maybe, trucking companies could start conversion to biodiesel and/or hybrids on are large scale. i've often thought about extracting our own oil while continuing to suck the middle east dry. still, refining our own oil would bring down the price of foreign oil and strengthen the US dollar assuming we export(we should). China and India, in years to come, will help consume if we go independant of the middle east. |
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