I never liked the Cavalier, but the Cobalt was a big improvement and this car will do very well if it gets 40mpg.

So, why would Honda Engineering help GM with the ecotec???

Anyway, it sounds good, but I wonder why would GM introduce it in Paris first and not here in the USA??

I guess I am not thinking straight this morning......darn night shift.

probably because they were getting paid. duh. :p

Honda cars have GM parts in them...like the Alternators and batteries.

GM collaborates with nearly every company...

You have your information backward. Small components like alternator and batteries come from third party suppliers that sell to the entire industry. On the the other hand some GM cars leave the factory with Honda V6 engines.
https://www.roadfly.com/new-cars/wp-c...-V6-engine.JPG

That's what I was trying to get at in my prior post. So no matter what the money involved, If I was Honda, I would tell the competition (GM) to go stuff it. Conversely, If I was GM, I would tell the competition Honda to go and stuff it. But yet it seems they are collaborating together and also competing with each other at the same time for market share of car sales. I was referring to engine R & D as was mentioned in a previous post by Danronian.

I don't think I was clear in my post. I was up for 24 hours.

GM released a few official pictures, so I photoshopped a few different colors, slightly lower, black bowtie. :D :thumbup:

https://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/21/g...1-chevy-cruze/

original
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...3735e692d9.jpg

https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...334a2c0e67.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...8d3c66d231.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...105675c1e1.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...7677e1c59a.jpg

it really does look like a civic....maybe even a baby cadillac

I agree with the Baby Caddie...Looks like a very nice car..I'm sure I'll be seeing it soon here in the Motor City :D