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Mr. Pig 08-15-2008 05:57 AM

Chevrolet Cruze/Cobalt
 
Looks like the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze (Cobalt replacement) could be promising. It's powered by a 1.4 liter direct injection turbo engine, estimated to give around 40 mpg. Being a self admitted GM leg humper, I think it should do well. :D

https://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/08/a...n-spring-2009/

https://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/10/s...-chevy-cobalt/

https://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...lt2.kgp.ed.jpg

thisisntjared 08-15-2008 07:04 AM

i dont think i like the shape, but kudos to them for going with forced induction and smaller displacement for fuel economy

Sludgy 08-15-2008 07:19 AM

Hybrid - like fuel economy without the hybrid price tag. It should sell like ice water in hell.

GM should just adapt this concept to its full size pickup trucks, with a ~3 liter DI turbo four based on its Atlas engine. I'd be in heaven, cruising at 25 mpg.

GasSavers_BEEF 08-15-2008 07:29 AM

it really favors a honda civic. I too am a fan of the cavaliers/cobalt/(whatever's next)

did they say anything about price? I scanned the articles (didn't read them completely) and I didn't see anything about it.

GasSavers_RoadWarrior 08-15-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sludgy (Post 115245)
GM should just adapt this concept to its full size pickup trucks, with a ~3 liter DI turbo four based on its Atlas engine. I'd be in heaven, cruising at 25 mpg.

Fours get "difficult" around 2.5L plus. Might have to be a V6...

dieselbenz 08-15-2008 08:33 PM

Volvo S40 wana be.

Danronian 08-16-2008 12:17 PM

I do kinda like the style of it, reminds me of a mazda.

Is this a new ecotec engine or is this a differently designed 4 cylinder?

I know Honda engineering helped GM with the ecotec, so as long as another foreign company helped with the engine design, this is something I would consider in the future after the first-model-year bugs have worked there way out.

theholycow 08-16-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadWarrior (Post 115294)
Fours get "difficult" around 2.5L plus. Might have to be a V6...

Could go to an I5. My VW's 2.5L I5 seems like it could make a lot of power if they made it like their 2.0t.

You guys are ignoring the all important fact that if nobody buys it, it's not efficient at all. You'll have a hard time selling a full size pickup with a 2.5L engine no matter how powerful it is, even with gas at $4/gallon.

Mr. Pig 08-20-2008 04:17 AM

I read somewhere to expect it to come in a little above the Cobalt. GM is no longer making money off their trucks and SUV's, so they have to spread that out somewhere. I wouldn't mind paying a little more for something that has an EPA rating of 40 mpg highway. You know what that means to those of us who try and get more out of a car... :thumbup: :) I was thinking I would get a Cobalt XFE this fall or winter, but now I may have to hold off a while longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 115250)
it really favors a honda civic. I too am a fan of the cavaliers/cobalt/(whatever's next)

did they say anything about price? I scanned the articles (didn't read them completely) and I didn't see anything about it.


Cruzedriver 08-20-2008 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 115250)
it really favors a honda civic. I too am a fan of the cavaliers/cobalt/(whatever's next)

did they say anything about price? I scanned the articles (didn't read them completely) and I didn't see anything about it.

About the price....
I work for Gm and they were hoping it could release from 15,000 to 16,000 also it gets 45 mpg on average alot of places say 40 but it actually gets 45 which is comparible if not better than the hybrids out there. Im for sure getting this but plan to mod it any suggestions starting off?? oh release date i have heard as early as summer 09 cuase they are really wanting to push this vehicle even though it is a 2010

Markmysite 08-20-2008 05:42 AM

I never liked the Cavalier, but the Cobalt was a big improvement and this car will do very well if it gets 40mpg.

GasSavers_GasUser 08-20-2008 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danronian (Post 115355)
I know Honda engineering helped GM with the ecotec, .

So, why would Honda Engineering help GM with the ecotec???

Anyway, it sounds good, but I wonder why would GM introduce it in Paris first and not here in the USA??

I guess I am not thinking straight this morning......darn night shift.

thisisntjared 08-20-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasUser (Post 115681)
So, why would Honda Engineering help GM with the ecotec???

probably because they were getting paid. duh. :p

TANGOJETTA 08-20-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasUser (Post 115681)
So, why would Honda Engineering help GM with the ecotec???

Anyway, it sounds good, but I wonder why would GM introduce it in Paris first and not here in the USA??

I guess I am not thinking straight this morning......darn night shift.



Honda cars have GM parts in them...like the Alternators and batteries.

theholycow 08-20-2008 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasUser (Post 115681)
So, why would Honda Engineering help GM with the ecotec???

GM collaborates with nearly every company...

dieselbenz 08-20-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TANGOJETTA (Post 115720)
Honda cars have GM parts in them...like the Alternators and batteries.

You have your information backward. Small components like alternator and batteries come from third party suppliers that sell to the entire industry. On the the other hand some GM cars leave the factory with Honda V6 engines.
https://www.roadfly.com/new-cars/wp-c...-V6-engine.JPG

GasSavers_GasUser 08-21-2008 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theholycow (Post 115744)
GM collaborates with nearly every company...

That's what I was trying to get at in my prior post. So no matter what the money involved, If I was Honda, I would tell the competition (GM) to go stuff it. Conversely, If I was GM, I would tell the competition Honda to go and stuff it. But yet it seems they are collaborating together and also competing with each other at the same time for market share of car sales. I was referring to engine R & D as was mentioned in a previous post by Danronian.

I don't think I was clear in my post. I was up for 24 hours.

Mr. Pig 08-21-2008 08:01 AM

GM released a few official pictures, so I photoshopped a few different colors, slightly lower, black bowtie. :D :thumbup:

https://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/21/g...1-chevy-cruze/

original
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...3735e692d9.jpg

https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...334a2c0e67.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...8d3c66d231.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...105675c1e1.jpg
https://www.fuelly.com/attachments/fo...7677e1c59a.jpg

GasSavers_BEEF 08-21-2008 09:39 AM

it really does look like a civic....maybe even a baby cadillac

ucantcme 08-21-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEF (Post 115835)
it really does look like a civic....maybe even a baby cadillac

I agree with the Baby Caddie...Looks like a very nice car..I'm sure I'll be seeing it soon here in the Motor City :D

GasSavers_BEEF 08-23-2008 04:17 PM

the headlights and the entire front end for that matter looks kind of like the CTS? not a caddy guru so I am not sure.

dieselbenz 08-24-2008 11:16 AM

Can you imagine how desperate GM must be to show off the 2011 model year car in the middle of 2008. You don't see honda showing off the 2011 Civic. They are looking for any excuse to to show off future product to potential lenders. Pathetic. GM will never straigten out until they get rid of the entire management team.

Detroit pushes for a $50-billion bailout
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,7610189.story

Cruzedriver 08-25-2008 11:08 AM

It will be in Lordstown in April 2010, but i think they are announcing it to build hype and try to get the reputation back up for general motors... and i think its working their new line looks sweet infact this is going to be my next car

GasSavers_BEEF 08-25-2008 12:13 PM

I have a hard time believing that chevy is actually going to come out with a car that gets 45 mpg

I heard that they had a malibu hybrid.....I was shocked so I looked it up. it gets 2mpg...2MPG better that's it. what is the point. given this sub-par performance out of a hybrid, I wonder about many of their up and coming projects. the cruze the volt, how are they actually going to come out.

I am a chevy guy too. have had my cav for over 4 years. just don't know where this company is going though


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