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bowtieguy 09-07-2008 12:41 PM

Natural Gas Is Viable Option...
 
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...5895949.column

very interesting! it seems the payoff can be exceptional depending on what state you live in.

GasSavers_Erik 09-07-2008 12:51 PM

Its a good idea- but after the $1,500 engine conversion kit, the "Phill" gas filling pump that goes in your garage costs another $4K

https://www.plumbersstock.com/produc...rtNumber=38974

bowtieguy 09-07-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik (Post 117767)
Its a good idea- but after the $1,500 engine conversion kit, the "Phill" gas filling pump that goes in your garage costs another $4K

https://www.plumbersstock.com/produc...rtNumber=38974

not cheap indeed. perhaps new legislation should allow for a tax credit on conversions as well as NG production vehicles.

that and mass production(if it is widely accepted) should cause prices to come down.

there's always a down side however. anyone care to inform?

GasSavers_RoadWarrior 09-07-2008 01:57 PM

Well take me and my brother in law, he got his minivan converted, so we've both got minivans that nominally in the hands of the general populace get 18mpg combined... With his converted, he pays about 2/3 the price of gasoline to fill it, but gets about 15mpg equivalent, but he's 3mpg ahead of the 12mpg that the difference in cost would indicate, or 3/15x100=20% ahead.. and went about $2000 in the hole for it, so it's gonna be a few years in payback when he does about 200 miles a week. Me I run gasoline, and have a few simple mods, and I'm at 24mpg, 33% ahead... with very little capital outlay. A couple of times last year though, the natural gas gas filling station price went high enough that he would probably have been better off putting gasoline in.

There used to be more "factory" CNG vehicles available up here, but they seem to have replaced them all with flex fuel, which sucks when we've only got a handful of E85 stations, in the whole Province and the gubbmint is giving cashback on 'em whether you can fill 'em or not.

Ideally a factory CNG or conversion prospect would be a high compression motor, in order to avoid losing so much power and mileage per gallon equivalent with the conversion.

suspendedhatch 09-07-2008 05:40 PM

You can get a tax credit for the conversion.

theholycow 09-07-2008 06:51 PM

I'd maybe start to possibly think about the idea of considering running my car on natural gas...if I could get natural gas at my house. First I'd rather convert my nasty oil heat/hot water to gas.

bowtieguy 09-08-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by suspendedhatch (Post 117789)
You can get a tax credit for the conversion.

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