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I was going to reference the Global Terrorism database. Despite a recent spike, for the last (almost) 50 years, very few terrorist attacks have been Islamic/Jihadi based at all in Europe. You're something like 9 times more likely to be killed by a Police officer than a Terrorist in the US.
C'mon people, don't let these Politicians play you like fools, educate yourself with facts and data, don't join the hate parade! |
And no one here is denying that there is terror committed by people who proclaim themselves to be Muslim. It is a problem that needs to be dealt with. However, we have an administration in charge of the US that willfully ignores right wing and other forms of terror to focus only on terror committed by these individuals who call themselves Muslims. When news came out about the Quebec mosque shooting, there was a Fox News headline that mentioned one of the people involved was of Moroccan origin. Trump pointed at that to justify his temporary travel ban on twitter. Trump supporters were joyful on twitter and facebook that their prejudices were confirmed. Then it turned out that the Moroccan man was actually the one who called it in and was a witness while the shooter was a lone white French Canadian guy. Fox News later corrected their headline. Trump's public response? Nothing. Utter silence. It didn't fit the narrative. Instead, he and his team makes up Islamic terror attacks. Bowling Green. Atlanta. Sweden.
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Why ignore right wing terror, which is statistically more likely to happen? THAT is dangerous. Period. We need to fight against all forms of terror and violence. |
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^I missed that part, my bad. Speaking as a Muslim myself, that sounds insane. Those brothers were scumbag terrorists and the younger one was asking for mercy "for the sake of Allah." What a load of... I have zero sympathy for them using religion as a justification for their horrendous act and they deserve the worst that comes to them.
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I'm enjoying this conversation, everyone, and, regardless of our different opinions, I'm the type that holds no ill feelings or grudges towards anyone...
UNLESS you're my two imbecilic, idiot, treacherous, conniving, heartless sisters. I left out STUPID! |
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For the decade preceding December 7, 1941, the japanese had probably killed fewer americans than smoking and malnutrition. That doesn't make ignoring the problem with Japan in 1942 reasonable. For the two decades prior to 1981 far more people died from the complications associated with obesity than died from HIV/AIDS. That isn't an excellent excuse for regarding HIV/AIDS as no particular problem in 1995. |
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You will understand then that in part because of a lack of hierarchy and structure, and a direct relationship with the book unmediated by another authority, you can condemn their acts, but you (and I) have very little authority in condemning them as un-Islamic. This is the challenge faced by my Pakistani and Saudi friends. They have a faith and are interested in shaping their societies to work with the wider and functional world, but they face a very substantial opposition from within their own countries. The challenge for these people is to forge a future in which it is widely accepted amongst Muslim populations that one need not be retrograde or caliphist in order to be a faithful adherent. It would also be nice if they could accomplish this without being blown up, crucified or beheaded. Some of my American friends contend that this is impossible given the body of text from which Muslims draw. I do not share that contention. |
I still think US citizens armed with firearms are a bigger threat, even though that threat itself is probably very minor. Here's a tiny list of a few reported incidents involving firearms from the last 72 hours on US soil.
February 22, 2017 Kansas Leawood February 22, 2017 Texas Marion (county) February 22, 2017 Missouri Kansas City February 22, 2017 South Carolina Gray Court February 22, 2017 Louisiana Lafayette February 22, 2017 Louisiana Lafayette February 22, 2017 Florida Fort Myers February 22, 2017 Texas Houston February 22, 2017 Texas Conroe February 22, 2017 Texas Arlington February 22, 2017 Louisiana Marrero February 22, 2017 Louisiana Baton Rouge February 22, 2017 California Coachella February 22, 2017 California Bakersfield February 22, 2017 Minnesota Saint Paul February 22, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 22, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 22, 2017 Tennessee Gallatin February 22, 2017 Texas Houston February 21, 2017 Colorado Colorado Springs February 21, 2017 New York Utica February 21, 2017 Colorado Colorado Springs February 21, 2017 Colorado Denver February 21, 2017 New Jersey Trenton February 21, 2017 New York Buffalo February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Pittsburgh February 21, 2017 Ohio Cleveland February 21, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas February 21, 2017 Texas Houston February 21, 2017 Nebraska Valley February 21, 2017 Wisconsin Racine February 21, 2017 Ohio Columbus February 21, 2017 Oregon Beaverton February 21, 2017 Iowa Mount Pleasant (Mt Pleasant) February 21, 2017 New Jersey Atlantic City February 21, 2017 North Carolina Garner February 21, 2017 Ohio Springfield February 21, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 21, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 21, 2017 Kentucky Oak Grove February 21, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury February 21, 2017 North Carolina Greensboro February 21, 2017 Delaware Wilmington February 21, 2017 North Carolina Gastonia February 21, 2017 Ohio Massillon February 21, 2017 Illinois Springfield February 21, 2017 Kentucky Paducah February 21, 2017 Illinois Belleville February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 21, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 21, 2017 Florida Pensacola February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando February 21, 2017 Florida Sarasota February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga (East Ridge) February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga February 21, 2017 Kentucky Betsy Layne February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood) February 21, 2017 South Carolina North Charleston February 21, 2017 Alabama Mobile February 21, 2017 Texas Houston February 21, 2017 California San Diego February 21, 2017 Alabama Baldwin (county) February 21, 2017 Texas Abilene February 21, 2017 Florida West Palm Beach February 21, 2017 South Carolina Anderson February 21, 2017 South Carolina Easley February 21, 2017 Maine Oakland February 21, 2017 Missouri Saint Louis February 21, 2017 Mississippi Natchez February 21, 2017 Mississippi Toomsuba February 21, 2017 Utah Ogden February 21, 2017 New Hampshire Manchester February 21, 2017 Utah Roy February 21, 2017 Louisiana Hammond February 21, 2017 Florida Orlando February 21, 2017 Alabama Birmingham February 21, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 21, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 21, 2017 Ohio Toledo February 21, 2017 Louisiana Baton Rouge February 21, 2017 Massachusetts New Bedford February 21, 2017 California Covina February 21, 2017 California San Bernardino February 21, 2017 Louisiana Metairie February 21, 2017 California Indio February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Worcester February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Mc Kees Rocks (Mckees Rocks) February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Worcester February 21, 2017 Massachusetts Boston February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Roseland) February 21, 2017 Texas Tatum February 21, 2017 Texas Del Valle February 21, 2017 Texas Killeen February 21, 2017 Texas Laredo February 21, 2017 Louisiana Shreveport February 21, 2017 Texas Dallas February 21, 2017 Texas Houston February 21, 2017 Texas Houston February 21, 2017 Arkansas Texarkana February 21, 2017 Tennessee Memphis February 21, 2017 Ohio Dayton February 21, 2017 Nebraska Mc Cook (Mccook) February 21, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas February 21, 2017 Pennsylvania Harrisburg February 21, 2017 Indiana Bloomington February 21, 2017 Tennessee Chattanooga February 21, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 21, 2017 Nebraska Lincoln February 21, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis February 21, 2017 Louisiana Sibley February 21, 2017 Ohio Akron February 20, 2017 North Carolina Hickory February 20, 2017 Washington Spokane February 20, 2017 New York Buffalo February 20, 2017 California Orosi February 20, 2017 Texas Houston February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 20, 2017 California Oakland February 20, 2017 California Antioch February 20, 2017 Ohio Cleveland February 20, 2017 Texas Fort Worth February 20, 2017 Mississippi Byhalia February 20, 2017 Texas Bastrop February 20, 2017 Texas Galveston February 20, 2017 Arizona Phoenix February 20, 2017 Arizona Tucson February 20, 2017 Texas Grand Prairie February 20, 2017 Kentucky Murray February 20, 2017 Missouri Saint Louis February 20, 2017 Tennessee Mcdonald February 20, 2017 Tennessee Memphis February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Madison February 20, 2017 Rhode Island Central Falls February 20, 2017 Georgia Thomasville February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Madison (Fitchburg) February 20, 2017 Ohio Akron February 20, 2017 Florida Naples February 20, 2017 Florida Fort Myers February 20, 2017 North Carolina Sanford February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 20, 2017 Florida Miami February 20, 2017 Florida Ocala February 20, 2017 Virginia Portsmouth February 20, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 20, 2017 Maryland Odenton February 20, 2017 Florida Sarasota February 20, 2017 Florida Brooksville February 20, 2017 Delaware Wilmington February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia February 20, 2017 Colorado Brighton February 20, 2017 North Carolina Roxboro February 20, 2017 North Carolina Gastonia February 20, 2017 North Carolina Raleigh February 20, 2017 Texas Paris February 20, 2017 District of Columbia Washington February 20, 2017 Ohio Cincinnati February 20, 2017 North Carolina Burlington February 20, 2017 Alabama Birmingham February 20, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury February 20, 2017 South Carolina Greenville February 20, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia February 20, 2017 Missouri Saint Joseph February 20, 2017 Virginia Hampton February 20, 2017 New York Brooklyn February 20, 2017 Florida Miami February 20, 2017 Indiana Rising Sun February 20, 2017 Florida Orlando February 20, 2017 Virginia Chesterfield February 20, 2017 Tennessee Lebanon February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit February 20, 2017 Virginia Roanoke February 20, 2017 Arkansas Benton February 20, 2017 Florida Leesburg February 20, 2017 New York New York (Manhattan) February 20, 2017 Virginia Newport News February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Virginia Richmond February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Georgia Jonesboro February 20, 2017 Georgia Ellenwood February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 California Whittier February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Tennessee Martin February 20, 2017 Tennessee Camden February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood) February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 20, 2017 Florida Miami Gardens February 20, 2017 California Pomona February 20, 2017 California Fresno February 20, 2017 California Bakersfield February 20, 2017 Oklahoma Norman February 20, 2017 Mississippi Louisville February 20, 2017 South Carolina Columbia February 20, 2017 Texas Abilene February 20, 2017 California Riverside February 20, 2017 Florida Bradenton February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 20, 2017 Missouri Kansas City (Raytown) February 20, 2017 South Carolina Summerville February 20, 2017 Mississippi Hattiesburg February 20, 2017 Mississippi Canton February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 20, 2017 Indiana Evansville February 20, 2017 Florida Fort Myers February 20, 2017 Georgia Atlanta February 20, 2017 Alabama Birmingham February 20, 2017 Texas Copperas Cove February 20, 2017 New Hampshire Portsmouth February 20, 2017 Illinois Rockford February 20, 2017 Iowa Mount Pleasant February 20, 2017 South Carolina Rock Hill February 20, 2017 South Carolina Hilton Head Island February 20, 2017 Mississippi Jackson February 20, 2017 New York Brockport February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit February 20, 2017 Michigan Detroit February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 20, 2017 Louisiana Shreveport February 20, 2017 Texas San Antonio February 20, 2017 Indiana Indianapolis February 20, 2017 Indiana Brownsburg February 20, 2017 Texas Lubbock February 20, 2017 New Hampshire Farmington February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Wilkes Barre February 20, 2017 Connecticut Bridgeport February 20, 2017 Ohio Cleveland February 20, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 20, 2017 Mississippi Biloxi February 20, 2017 Wisconsin Green Bay February 20, 2017 Georgia Atlanta February 20, 2017 New York Staten Island February 20, 2017 Nebraska Lincoln February 20, 2017 Pennsylvania Harrisburg February 20, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 20, 2017 Texas Dallas February 20, 2017 Oregon Portland February 20, 2017 Kansas Wichita February 20, 2017 Oregon Wolf Creek February 19, 2017 Ohio Kent February 19, 2017 Alabama Auburn February 19, 2017 California Castroville February 19, 2017 Oregon Central Point February 19, 2017 California Merced February 19, 2017 California Merced February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Milwaukee February 19, 2017 Montana Dillon February 19, 2017 District of Columbia Washington February 19, 2017 New York Hilton February 19, 2017 Virginia Newport News February 19, 2017 North Carolina Thurmond February 19, 2017 California Mc Farland (Mcfarland) February 19, 2017 California San Ysidro February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond February 19, 2017 Texas Fort Worth February 19, 2017 South Carolina North Charleston February 19, 2017 Texas Lubbock February 19, 2017 Maryland Aberdeen February 19, 2017 New York Tonawanda February 19, 2017 Michigan Traverse City February 19, 2017 West Virginia Charleston February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Clairton February 19, 2017 West Virginia Charleston February 19, 2017 Texas Humble February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 19, 2017 Ohio Salem February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago (Englewood) February 19, 2017 Texas Houston February 19, 2017 North Carolina Salisbury February 19, 2017 Illinois Chicago February 19, 2017 Texas Houston February 19, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Ohio Cleveland February 19, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 19, 2017 Florida Miami February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte February 19, 2017 Alabama Birmingham February 19, 2017 South Carolina Prosperity February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte February 19, 2017 Nebraska Omaha February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Racine February 19, 2017 Wisconsin Racine February 19, 2017 Ohio Dayton February 19, 2017 Texas Humble February 19, 2017 Washington Seattle February 19, 2017 New Jersey Jersey City February 19, 2017 New Jersey Jersey City February 19, 2017 North Carolina Charlotte February 19, 2017 Kentucky Louisville February 19, 2017 Indiana Evansville February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis February 19, 2017 California Los Angeles February 19, 2017 Kentucky Marshall (county) February 19, 2017 California Oakland February 19, 2017 California San Jose February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Manheim February 19, 2017 Pennsylvania Pittsburgh February 19, 2017 West Virginia Morgantown February 19, 2017 New Jersey Highland Park February 19, 2017 New Jersey Trenton February 19, 2017 Florida Gainesville February 19, 2017 South Carolina Spartanburg February 19, 2017 Georgia Savannah February 19, 2017 Tennessee Memphis February 19, 2017 Florida Orlando February 19, 2017 Florida Pembroke Pines February 19, 2017 New Jersey Atlantic City February 19, 2017 New York Syracuse February 19, 2017 New Jersey Pleasantville February 19, 2017 Colorado Denver February 19, 2017 California Visalia February 19, 2017 Arkansas Bull Shoals February 19, 2017 Idaho Preston February 19, 2017 Maryland Baltimore February 19, 2017 Florida Key West February 19, 2017 Virginia Norfolk February 19, 2017 Virginia Warrenton February 19, 2017 Virginia Newport News February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond February 19, 2017 Virginia Richmond February 19, 2017 New York Brooklyn February 19, 2017 Iowa Ames February 19, 2017 Tennessee Franklin February 19, 2017 Virginia Nellysford (Wintergreen) February 19, 2017 Florida Tampa February 19, 2017 Florida Tampa February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Kentucky Erlanger February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Florida Jacksonville February 19, 2017 Ohio Cincinnati Since I posted this, the list has already grown. If this worries you less than the threat of Islamic based terror, I don't know what to think really... |
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As to american firearm policy, note that many of the places you report make legal firearm possession so difficult that they are effectively banned by law. |
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