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Forum: Aerodynamics 09-12-2006, 05:48 AM
Replies: 63
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Posted By MetroMPG
Neat camera link, Zugy. Possibly necessary if I...

Neat camera link, Zugy. Possibly necessary if I ever install a full boat tail :)
Forum: Aerodynamics 09-12-2006, 05:45 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
re: Wikipedia's drag entry: There...

re: Wikipedia's drag entry:



There are more.

I corrected the Audi A2's Cd last week. It was listed at .24. Audi's own corporate site claims .25
Forum: Aerodynamics 09-08-2006, 09:51 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Modern cars' side mirrors are generally highly...

Modern cars' side mirrors are generally highly optimized for aerodynamics.

A roughly hemispherical shape on the forward facing side is most efficient, rather than pointed.

Widening the body...
Forum: Aerodynamics 09-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
You can't blink any more, or you miss an...

You can't blink any more, or you miss an interesting thread here on GS. It's a blessing and a curse :)
Forum: Aerodynamics 09-01-2006, 12:08 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
MetroMPG.com update

FYI for those following this thread, I've posted a summary of the mirror information & road test on metrompg.com, correcting some of my sloppy pre-test drag estimates in the process:

Reflections...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-23-2006, 06:45 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Late today I had near perfect weather conditions...

Late today I had near perfect weather conditions for doing a little experiment: light north winds, which are blocked by a ridge and tree line that runs along the north side of my usual "test" road,...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-15-2006, 09:50 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Ah, OK - they're convex. Thanks.

Ah, OK - they're convex. Thanks.
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 04:50 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
The herd effect... There's insanity in numbers....

The herd effect... There's insanity in numbers. :)


Please do! I will also test the mirrors next calm day. It would be good to have info from 2 vehicles.
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 04:11 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Thanks! See, I assumed, and made an ***...

Thanks!

See, I assumed, and made an *** out of me.
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 02:57 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
I'm curious: how are they better? ...

I'm curious: how are they better?



What's a wink mirror?
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 02:18 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:fcdT00z542uC...

https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:fcdT00z542uChM:https://graphics.samsclub.com/images/products/0003308171800_LG.jpg
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 12:43 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
While on the side-view mirror topic, we all know...

While on the side-view mirror topic, we all know how to set them, right?
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-14-2006, 12:42 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
It's a good question. I was thinking about it,...

It's a good question. I was thinking about it, but haven't looked at how that would work. One reason is because I thought not having a driver's side one might be illegal.

Another drawback is...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-13-2006, 06:37 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Undertook a little project this afternoon:...

Undertook a little project this afternoon: replaced my stock non-folding but otherwise aerodynamically shaped driver's side mirror with a folding but otherwise not very aerodynamic mirror from the...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-13-2006, 09:02 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
If I had a motorcycle mirror hanging around, that...

If I had a motorcycle mirror hanging around, that might do the trick. My Ninja 250 had nice sized mirrors... And I'm not so concerned about weight as frontal area & Cd.

This afternoon I'm going...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-13-2006, 06:06 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Just to clarify - the Chalmers report (just...

Just to clarify - the Chalmers report (just re-reading it now) states a 3-6% reduction in drag, not a Cd .03 - .06.
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-12-2006, 06:33 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Yeah, I would say so. It's not so small as to...

Yeah, I would say so. It's not so small as to disappear into experimental variability noise - if it's true.

For testing, I'd likely remove both mirrors just to be safe (larger effect), and then...
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-12-2006, 06:17 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Using the aero/rr web tool...

Using the aero/rr web tool (https://metrompg.com/tool-aero-rr.htm) I made based on Dan's spreadsheet, my car theoretically gets 56.7 mpg (US) @55 mph
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
The thought crossed my mind. :) I may just...

The thought crossed my mind. :)

I may just take the next day off that's calm (good for testing).
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-12-2006, 05:45 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
I de-passenger side mirrored the Flea

I de-passenger side mirrored the Flea
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-11-2006, 12:47 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
If it turns out it's really worth taking mirrors...

If it turns out it's really worth taking mirrors off, I may go for a combination approach
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-11-2006, 12:07 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Because a Google search is quicker than firing up...

Because a Google search is quicker than firing up the aero tool spreadsheet (which I will still do, later)
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-11-2006, 11:43 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
It's all relative. I'd just like to quantify it....

It's all relative. I'd just like to quantify it.

OK, I'll fire up Dan's spreadsheet tool later and translate it into some theoretical miles per gallon.
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-11-2006, 11:39 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Yeah, good memory, Dan! Whereas I forgot both...

Yeah, good memory, Dan! Whereas I forgot both the numbers, and the fact that a mirrors thread had started and petered out once already. :( (See my EDIT notes in the first post.)
Forum: Aerodynamics 08-11-2006, 11:21 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,628
Posted By MetroMPG
Just did. Basjoos found it originally...

Just did. Basjoos found it originally (https://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=617&highlight=mirrors)
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