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Old 01-03-2022, 12:03 PM   #1
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1,000 km Electric Car by Mercedes

Mercedes EQXX:

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Old 01-04-2022, 09:26 AM   #2
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Interesting car with finally adequate range for U.S. drivers and likely only several times too expensive for the 99% to own.
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Still find it baffling how you could do 10 hours of continuous driving. As a professional driver in the EU, you're required to take a 45 minute break every 4.5 hours, which is about how long it takes to rapid charge a battery. 600 miles a day must be the most extreme example you could ever dream up?

Edit: I just checked, a battery with this range would last the average American driver almost 3 weeks.
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Crossing Texas, either N/S or E/W is approximately 880 miles. Many drivers take 10-15 minute breaks every 3-4 hours, not enough for recharging to make a cross-state drive. With this much range it could be possible to make it one's only vehicle, based on U.S. driving needs, especially western U.S.
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But crossing an entire state doesn't sound like something someone would do on a daily basis, people make lifestyle choices based on thier average daily needs, not one off extreme annual trips. Would you splash out on expensive thermal skiing equipment just because of that freak snow storm you guys had a while back?
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Old 01-05-2022, 10:12 AM   #6
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With Level 2 overnight charging, 150 to 200 miles is plenty for the majority American's daily needs. Most households here have more than one car. Not every car in a household needs to meet every 'what if' role.

The new Hyundai and Kia BEV SUVs just arriving can be had with a range around 300 miles. On long trips, they can charge up 230 miles in 15 minutes. Now, there is few 350kW chargers out there for that, but the numbers will increase.
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Well, technically they have unlimited range if one has a good imagination. When the power grid won't support charging them all, and it won't unless capacity is roughly doubled, they will have zero range. The part they never discuss because it doesn't fit the agenda.
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What I find more amazing about these cars than range is their efficiency and drag coefficiency. The drag coefficient of the VW XL1 was Cd=0.19 and it only had two seats, this car's drag coefficient is 0.18. Even the new production Mercedes EQS and the Lucid Air has a Cd=0.20.

This EQXX is rated at 6 miles/kWh. My Chevy Volt is rated at 3.2 miles/kWh since it has an extra engine that needs to be carried around along with the fuel tank. If you hypermile a Tesla Model 3, you can get around 4.5 miles/kWh.

I don't think the impact on the electrical grid will be as bad as some people think. In the early 2000s when people started running their heat pumps in the Summer for cooling, it added a lot of load on the grid, and the supply of electricity didn't have any major issues. There will be more electricty required, but so far it has been ok.
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It tends be easier getting low drag coefficients with longer cars as you have more material to work with for cleaner 'tails'.

Air conditioning is one of the biggest loads in a house. Most EV charging happens when the A/C isn't running at high demand.

The grid needs upgrading whether or not there is plug ins on the road.
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What people forget is that all electrical appliances are getting efficient year on year, phone batteries last two days, house/street lights are led which use a fraction of the energy conventional lights do. In the EU appliances that use excessive power are banned, such as vacuum cleaners. There is excessive energy being generated by the likes of wind, they just need to build more storage for an upcoming "peak" demand which will now happen at night when people charge thier cars.
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