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08-14-2009, 10:19 AM
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Go hassle the Wright Bros or something.
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08-14-2009, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior
Go hassle the Wright Bros or something.
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Go take a chem class or something.
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08-14-2009, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theclencher
Go take a chem class or something.
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Don't be ignorant, it's in the freaking equations, specifically this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterma...mic_Efficiency
the term g is 1.27 for gasoline and air ONLY and because it's the power of another term a very tiny change in it has a larger effect on the efficiency than you might think. As it happens, g is the ratio of SHC of the input to SHC of the output, for gasoline SHC is around 2.something, and output is 1.something, for Hydrogen the SHC figure is 7, yes s-e-v-e-n, 3 times that of gasoline. and the output is one. So even 1% hydrogen will show a change in efficiency.
All we have is some practical difficulty in implementation.
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I remember The RoadWarrior..To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time..the world was powered by the black fuel & the desert sprouted great cities..Gone now, swept away..two mighty warrior tribes went to war & touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing..thundering machines sputtered & stopped..Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice
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09-01-2009, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadWarrior
Don't be ignorant, it's in the freaking equations, specifically this one...
All we have is some practical difficulty in implementation.
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You don't get that equation do you.
Here's some reading material that is a better use of time (ho ho ho proponents always remind me of that line in The Rolling Stone's "19th Nervous Breakdown": "And your father's still perfecting ways of making sealing wax" LMAO):
http://www.origin.popularmechanics.c...o/4310717.html
Hydrogen may have a future in ICE efficiency... but it ain't gonna be by glomming it onto an existing ICE.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...ue/index1.html
Here the California gummint is subsidizing/coordinating research into Hydrogen Enhanced Combustion Engines for power plants.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/2006publica...9-2006-012.PDF
Note that the efficiency improvements come from the lean burn cycle and the downsizing; the hydrogen merely FACILITATES controllable lean burn:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...enenhance.html
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