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Old 04-25-2007, 09:49 AM   #11
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Colani! Oh yeah, I remember him! I think I saw his wild stuff in the ID (Industrial Design) magazine. Here's a cool car he did :

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Old 04-25-2007, 06:12 PM   #12
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yeah that dude is has some insane ideas

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Old 04-27-2007, 11:55 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by psyshack View Post
I guess it looks good. The fact remains,, we need to stop long haul trucking. Only use them for Local and reginal PUD. The trains need to be doing the heavy cross country stuff.

Trains??? Railroads are a monopoly, and they give terrible service. We ship fertilizer around the country, and you cannot believe what a royal pain in the arse rail shipments are.

First, to get a rail car from our plant (south of Boston, MA) to Selkirk, NY takes 7 days! A round trip to Baltimore takes 28 days. This is abysmal service, and we have to maintain a huge fleet of leased cars because they're always tied up in transit.

Second, the price difference between trucking and rail is relatively small.

Third, few of our customers have rail sidings.

Fourth, shipping on two different railroads costs more than trucking. It's OK if we just ship on CSX, but add a short leg on Norfolk Southern, for example, and the price goes out of sight.

I have a better idea: Abolish railroads and ship everything in tandem and triple trailer trucks. Multi - trailers are a lot more efficient than singles.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:45 PM   #14
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Hmm, looks like there is some competition for the funny shaped semi!

This one is an Isuzu
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:19 PM   #15
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Good find, red91sit!

There certainly are similarities between the two designs.

Look at the new Freightliner I found while comparing the Isuzu and Volvo.

Go to the image gallery and look at the third photo in the second row. I don't see them in any of the other photos, but are those vortex generators on the section between the cab and trailer?

Here's Freightliner's page for the Cascadia. Be sure to watch the windtunnel video.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:24 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by trebuchet03 View Post
I like how the driver compartment looks, much like this style of small helicopter:
Although, what about the engine? Is is midengined? I think a midengine design would be good in the absence of a load (i.e. handling). It seems if the driver position could be variable in height further gains would be possible (It appears unnecessary to be so high up all the time, and a midlevel position looks optimal to influence the downwind airflow of the cargo).
Again, I like the looks of this and assume the crash characteristics (materials) prevent its construction.
Aerodynamics of trucks should of come along much further than it has, it seems the box styling has move into overall passenger vehicles unfortunately.
I saved a pdf entitled "Aerodynamic drag of heavy vehicles (class 7-8): simulation and benchmarking." It includes testing of a small boattail. I think a clear inflatable "bladder" that has an optimized shape would work well for a semi trailer rear.
If I recall correctly, long ago on Discovery channel's beyond 2000, the dead space between the driver cab and the cargo box was proposed to be shortened during transit (at speed) and extended at low speeds to allow turning.
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Be sure to watch the windtunnel video.
It is disappointing to see their use of the aerosol wand at such low air speeds. I want to see the truck aerodynamics in use at the intended airspeed.

This (Click link) was something recent also on semitrailer tires that may add to discussion.
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:00 PM   #17
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This might work well...
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:29 PM   #18
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Frontal Area

Without the luxury of a wind tunnel, I'm concerned mostly about frontal area in this design.

Granted, conventional designs have an air deflector for the trailer (which isn't necessary for this design) but the front glass is obviously enormous!

Kudos tho, for a new design in a very traditional industry.


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