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Old 12-05-2005, 05:14 PM   #1
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New small cars comming out. (56k warning)

Ok here is my thread on some interesting cars




2007 Fit
- 11/11/05


Buyers will not have to wait too much longer. The release of this small, entry level car is not too far down the road. There are 2 trim levels planned, a base and sport (S-Package). The sport model will carry the features of the base plus ground effects, sport grille, wheels, fog lights, upgraded stereo and more. Expect a 1.5L engine producing around 110hp with a choice of either a 5spd manual or a "unique" 5spd automatic transmission. Price estimates are approximately $13,000 for the base and $15,000 for the sport. The car is currently slated to arrive in spring as a 2007 model.

http://www.hondapreview.com/fit/



The 07' Toyota Yaris 1.5L engine with 106 HP. It looks kind of ugly. Like an aveo with a strange front end.

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Distance traveled by bicycle in 2007= 1,830ish miles
Average commute speed=25mph (yes, that's in a car)
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:18 PM   #2
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2007 Nissan Versa Versa is



2007 Nissan Versa

Versa is designed to provide Nissanís trademark enjoyable, stress-free experience through use of an all-new 1.8-liter DOHC inline 4-cylinder engine that satisfies both performance and environmental requirements. Three transmissions will be available with the 2007 Versa, including Nissanís advanced Xtronic CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission).

At 120-horsepower (estimated) and 125-plus lb-ft of torque (estimated), the engine is powerful and responsive, but it also delivers excellent fuel economy Ė estimated at a combined 38 miles per gallon with the CVT transmission (final engine performance and fuel economy rating will be finalized closer to vehicle on-sale date).

http://www.nissanhelp.com/Models/2007/Versa/Description.htm
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:44 PM   #3
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Woo, honda fit, I wish honda

Woo, honda fit, I wish honda would just make a cheap car with no frills and the stick shift sticking out of the floor like nobody's business, those were the days.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:57 PM   #4
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EH, the Honda Fit looks okay

EH, the Honda Fit looks okay I guess. I don't know why they keep making cars that look like bubbles. I mean seriously, whatever happened to the four door sedan?

Do people really want cars like this? Am I just out of the loop on what is cool now adays?

I say re-engineer the Honda CRX HF. I'm certain that with today's technology they could get 60mpg out of it without even needing to go hybrid.

That's what I would love to see: 80's cars re-engineered.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:33 PM   #5
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Blah blah blah, FIT looks

Blah blah blah, FIT looks like ****, but it's small and prolly better gas mileage than honda has cared about for years, and if an L15 is the si engine, that means they're not going to go k20 blah blah let's waste gas. I dunno, CRX HF is the Insight now.
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Re: Blah blah blah, FIT looks

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Blah blah blah, FIT looks like ****, but it's small and prolly better gas mileage than honda has cared about for years, and if an L15 is the si engine, that means they're not going to go k20 blah blah let's waste gas. I dunno, CRX HF is the Insight now.
you're right about the insight being the CRX HF. It's essentially the same body design with some modifications.

What I don't get though is why they are putting a 1.5L in the Fit. They recently said they can get a 1.8 to put out the fuel economy of the 1.5 and the power of a 2.0. Why not put a 1.3 in the Fit and it will have the power of a 1.5 and the fuel economy of a 1.0?

Oh wait, it's because Americans can't handle little engines.
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Well, I think the whole 1.5

Well, I think the whole 1.5 with power of 1.8 and economy of 1.3 is bull****, it's just 3 stage vtec. You can only get 1.8 power if you're in the 6k-7k rpm range, and only 1.3 efficiency under 3k, they're not at the same time, just marketing lies. Not to diss 3 stage, if I could get a jdm d15b 3 stage then I'd get your fuel economy with the vtec-e, but I could get 130 hp if I ever wanted to do a WOT run.
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Re: Well, I think the whole 1.5

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Well, I think the whole 1.5 with power of 1.8 and economy of 1.3 is bull****, it's just 3 stage vtec. You can only get 1.8 power if you're in the 6k-7k rpm range, and only 1.3 efficiency under 3k, they're not at the same time, just marketing lies. Not to diss 3 stage, if I could get a jdm d15b 3 stage then I'd get your fuel economy with the vtec-e, but I could get 130 hp if I ever wanted to do a WOT run.
You and I are talking about two different engines. I'm talking about Honda's new engine, the iVtec

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=376015

See awesome video here:

http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2005-4050705a/index.html
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I'm all for oldschool 80's

I'm all for oldschool 80's styling too Matt. Bring back sharp body lines!

I think the Fit is alright. Did anyone see the Fit in the Honda Tuning magazine that Mugen got a hold of? It was sick!
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Why Toyota ever canned the

Why Toyota ever canned the ECHO i'll never figure, they canned it right before the gas prices went up. I called a dealer and they said that people had been calling for them like crazy, the new car supposedly will sell better, although I still think it's ugly.

How about the new Kia Rio? been redesigned, said to get 39mpg freeway with it's automatic tranny, more than the stick actually, wonder how that happened?
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