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Old 05-27-2011, 09:50 PM   #11
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Everyone also needs to keep in mind, not every vehicle has the same results...
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:00 AM   #12
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Appreciate everyone's comments on this thread...very interesting and helpful!
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:19 AM   #13
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My '97 Ford Escort will get better mileage without the a/c in constant speed highway driving. I don't know what it does on shorter low speed trips, because I normally use this car for longer highway trips. On the highway with c/c set at 55 mph and a/c on I usually get 40-42 mpg the same conditions without the a/c on I can get 43-49 mpg. My best mileage ever on this car was a cool summer day when I didn't need the a/c and drove with the c/c set at 55 mph with the windows down, I achieved 49.85 mpg.
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:43 PM   #14
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This is one of many reasons it is good to have fuel consumption instrumentation. If your car didn't come with any I would suggest a scangauge, ultragauge or something similar. Otherwise you are driving blind when it comes to fuel efficiency.
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:52 AM   #15
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I doubt if my '05 Odyssey is unique in that the idle speed, as far as I can tell, is identical whether it's in neutral or drive, and whether the A/C is on or not. It's electronically regulated. Of course the lower the load on the engine the less gas it should use at idle. At shorter stop lights I turn off the A/C and put it in neutral. With climate control in recirculate, it stays cool enough for a while on many days before I must turn A/C back on. At long red lights, I'll turn off the A/C and the engine. At cruising speeds between 45 and 70 or so, vehicles need little power to keep moving (this car runs on 3 cylinders), especially with the windows closed, so running the A/C uses very little gas.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:31 PM   #16
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Have noticed over several summers that when it is on all the time, the penalty is about 1.5 MPG loss. Although that is less than the winter fuel penalty.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:41 AM   #17
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I have an old Series 3 Land Rover. It doesn't have A/C. It has a flap on the front to let in air :-)
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:12 PM   #18
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I'm really not sure whether the difference is as much as bandied about, particularly with diesel vehicles and modern climate control systems. I have tried hard to measure a difference, and it is hidden by all the other variables.

One problem is that climate control systems are set to a temperature, and so the air-con might well not be engaged a lot of the time. In addition, diesel engines generally have a lot of torque, so the load is not as noticeable as with small petrol engines. Furthermore, with modern HDi engines, there is no fuel consumption when running with no throttle. Yet the aircon will still turn if engaged. Thus, going downhill in gear, the aircon has no effect on fuel economy at all.

Another confounder is that if the external temperature is warmer, the engine will reach its operating temperature a lot sooner, and so run more efficiently. My engine idles at the same speed whether the aircon is on or not. The ambient temperature and the speed you are driving at also has an impact. The aircon also has to dissipate heat under the bonnet. How efficiently it does this will have an effect upon how efficiently it can cool the interior. Travelling at speed will maximise the airflow over the aircon radiator. A lower ambient temperature will increase the differential between the radiator and the airflow, again improving the cooling of the radiator.

Perhaps the best way to determine how much of an impact it has would be to measure the change in 0-60mph times with aircon engaged and off. If it has that much effect, it would change the performance of the vehicle. On an old 1.1l Suzuki Swift, it used to slow down if you were on the motorway and engaged the aircon.

Travelling around in traffic in temperatures of 45°C will result in the aircon having a greater effect on MPG compared with driving around in temperatures of 25° on the motorway.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:28 AM   #19
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In order for me to find traffic with temperatures of 45 Centigrade, I have to go to Canada or Mexico.
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:46 PM   #20
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Where in CANADA are you going to find temps of 45 degrees!!??!!?

I doubt that any part of Canada gets over 40!

Mexico however, no problem. lol
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