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Old 03-06-2006, 10:47 AM   #1
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Proposed experiment: MPG-CAPS

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While I'm very skeptical of a pill increasing my fuel economy, I'm willing to participate in an experiment which will prove or disprove the effectiveness of this.

More info here:

http://www.mpgcaps.com/

To watch the movie which tries to recruit you as a seller, see here:

http://www.myffi.biz/Flash/fuel_movie.html

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The MPG-CAPS isolates the sulfur molecules and other impurities found in fossil fuels, preventing the formation of sludge, varnish and acids that are harmful to fuel systems and engines. The MPG-CAPS have had Tests Conducted and Registered by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Test Facilities and have already been in use for more than thirty years by several municipalities, other government agencies and many commercial firms.
taken from http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art40435.asp

Experiment

The experiment will last for four tanks.

Five participants will each use MPG-CAPS for two tanks, and not use them for two tanks.

The experiment will be conducted in A-B-A manner, or in our case A-B-A-B. In other words, we will have one tank without the cap, one tank with, one tank without, and one tank with. This will demonstrate for certain if the caps do in fact affect fuel economy.

After we have 5 participants the experiment will begin. If a representative of MPG-CAPS will be willing to donate the needed pills it would be wonderful. If not alternative means of acquiring these pills may need to be determined.

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Old 03-06-2006, 11:13 AM   #2
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Re: Proposed experiment: MPG-CAPS

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Experiment

The experiment will last for four tanks.

Five participants will each use MPG-CAPS for two tanks, and not use them for two tanks.

The experiment will be conducted in A-B-A manner, or in our case A-B-A-B. In other words, we will have one tank without the cap, one tank with, one tank without, and one tank with. This will demonstrate for certain if the caps do in fact affect fuel economy.
It was my understanding that it takes four tanks to notice a difference and that if you skip a tank, you would have to start over. If this is true, then we would need to do AAAA-BBBB testing. At one tank every two weeks, this is a 16 week test for me. IMO this is too long because of the change in season, temps and rain. Any results would be speculative at best due to changing factors. Perhaps that is why the 4 tank requirement is in the advertisement, so that the claim cannot easily be disproved. :-)


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Re: Proposed experiment: MPG-CAPS

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It was my understanding that it takes four tanks to notice a difference and that if you skip a tank, you would have to start over. If this is true, then we would need to do AAAA-BBBB testing. At one tank every two weeks, this is a 16 week test for me. IMO this is too long because of the change in season, temps and rain. Any results would be speculative at best due to changing factors. Perhaps that is why the 4 tank requirement is in the advertisement, so that the claim cannot easily be disproved. :-)


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If it really takes four tanks, then that is just silly. Take a look at anyone's gaslog (except your's, Mr. Consistent) and you'll see that MPG figures vary in extreme ways over 4 tanks of gas.

I've only filled up 8 tanks of gas since October, so this experiment would take me 6 months. We'll press forward assuming that each pill will work at the point of insertion.
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lol damn i can't believe u

lol damn i can't believe u guys bought into the idea. I hope your science will be a benifit for us all!
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lol damn i can't believe u guys bought into the idea. I hope your science will be a benifit for us all!
I personally think it's a waste of time, but I'm also willing to take the time and prove either way if it works or not. If it works, it would be a great place for members of this particular MLM to point potential customers. If it doesn't work, potential buyers would be more than happy to find our results via Google.
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It was my understanding that it takes four tanks to notice a difference and that if you skip a tank, you would have to start over. If this is true, then we would need to do AAAA-BBBB testing. At one tank every two weeks, this is a 16 week test for me. IMO this is too long because of the change in season, temps and rain. Any results would be speculative at best due to changing factors. Perhaps that is why the 4 tank requirement is in the advertisement, so that the claim cannot easily be disproved. :-)


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If it really takes four tanks, then that is just silly. Take a look at anyone's gaslog (except your's, Mr. Consistent) and you'll see that MPG figures vary in extreme ways over 4 tanks of gas.

I've only filled up 8 tanks of gas since October, so this experiment would take me 6 months. We'll press forward assuming that each pill will work at the point of insertion.
If the pills can be free I may be able to sfford to try this experiment. My last 5 tanks have been pretty consistant; only 1.1 mpg difference from highest to lowest. Even the 1.1 is only because of one tank that dropped to 38.8 or so and the other 4 were in the upper 39's. At one tank a week, this should take me about a month.
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I added your name to the

I added your name to the list diamondlarry.

This may actually be a cheap experiment. if one pill can treat 20 gallons, and most of us have 10 gallon tanks, it means that we'll only need about one pill per person.
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Quote:and most of us have 10

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and most of us have 10 gallon tanks,
My Saturn has to be weird and has a 12.8 gallon tank. :-(
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and most of us have 10 gallon tanks,
My Saturn has to be weird and has a 12.8 gallon tank. :-(
I'm guessing that we can go a little over-kill and put one capsule in each fill up. I'm sure that's how they're designed to be used anyway.

It may actually require a "cleaning" tank between pill and no-pill as well, just to make sure that the extra gallon or so of fuel with the diluted pill in there is out.
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40 gallons

If you think 12.8 is wierd, how about my 40 gallon diesel tank. I just dropped $70 to fillup today. My wallet is screaming.
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