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Old 02-07-2017, 11:51 AM   #11
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Hope US taxpayers can now stop subsidizing EVs
I see you're from Houston? The last I heard, Houston has worse air pollution than Los Angeles.

Stop EV subsidies? Like the US$600 BILLION worth of US gov't subsidies handed to the oil industry in 2015?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidies

According to that Wiki article, oil industry subsidies by all gov'ts worldwide are responsible for a 21% INCREASE in air pollution and 55% of air pollution-related deaths.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:46 PM   #12
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I would love to live in an area like that town DF. Does it even have a traffic light? Wife could never stand it due to proximity to a WalMart
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:49 PM   #13
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Family friend lived near Columbus Ohio. Worth about 50 million now. Owned the property close to 200 years. Gov't paid them to NOT grow stuff. I would prefer to have the subsidy money pay off the debt. Never got one myself, so I would be biased.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:15 PM   #14
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I would love to live in an area like that town DF. Does it even have a traffic light? Wife could never stand it due to proximity to a WalMart
No traffic, no traffic lights, no stress, no problem!
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:33 AM   #15
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Volvo has said their last ICE car will be made in 2020.
I can't find anything from Volvo saying that they will stop ICE cars in 3 years time? Is there anything else out there that confirms this?

They recently, 2-3 years ago, invested a lot of money on a new engine configuration with very high pressure injectors and turbos etc, which only arrived in some cars in 2015, these engines would have been designed to continue in production for a long time, probably 20 years to provide the payback on the investment.

I would have to say that until a manufacturer the size of Volvo has 80-90% of it's cars electric, they won't be making any plans to drop ICE cars.

Personally, I see the trend for Hybrids increasing dramatically and then they will start to shift the bias of power from ICE to Electric, and eventually the ICE becoming redundant.

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Old 02-08-2017, 02:27 PM   #16
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No traffic, no traffic lights, no stress, no problem!
WOW! Paul, in case you haven't heard, movies are now in color AND you can hear the actors talk, too!
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:30 PM   #17
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I can't find anything from Volvo saying that they will stop ICE cars in 3 years time? Is there anything else out there that confirms this?
I got that detail off the YouTube video, Oliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dI_E-EAjz0

By American journalism standards THAT should be credible enough.
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Old 02-08-2017, 04:36 PM   #18
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It's not especially old, started life as a village in 1198. Some Roman stuff found here, but think they were just passing through ha. Was popular with Quakers etc. There's some history here, but as far as British Historic towns go, this isn't anything special.

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I'm officially jealous. Loads of personality where you live!
Thanks, Steve! I'm rather fond of Oakland, California, too!
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