So what are people like JUGRNAUT really looking for? and what are they willing to do?
I'm frustrated as well by the people who choose to waste in such a reckless manner, and then come here to braig about their greed and carlesness, costing enough that they are starting to notice, not enough that they truely want to change.
While I am sure there are some people that get on here thinking there is some magic gadget they can add that will double their mileage then forget about it once they find out it takes real work to get better mileage, there will always be someone who because of their situation is forced to get better mileage out of a less than desirable FE car.
What if this guy had a daily driver that blew up/got totaled and got fired from work so now he has no money to do anything else except drive the car and hope someone will buy a modified car for even 1/2 what the payoff on the loan is? Most people will not touch a modified lsx car since they know that most people race them when they are modded and typically are pretty abused.
When I first got divorced I wasn't in quite that bad of a shape, but I didn't have much money and just started a new job that had a 100 mile round trip commute. I was driving my Camaro to work at 20mpg. It took me almost a year to get back on my feet to where I could afford to buy my Metro and start saving money. Now I am in a situation where I could drive my kit car daily and not worry about the fact that it probably won't get 3mpg and go through tires every 3-5000 miles because I have much more money than I need now.
The point is we have no idea what this guy or the hummer guy's motivation is for saving gas, so why not give them the benefit of the doubt and if they turn out not really interested in saving gas it will come out eventually and they will find another forum to hang out at. If they are here because they really want to save gas, they will eventually change out cars to something that gets better mileage when the situation arises for them. With an attitude of 'You have a car that sucks because I say so'(for whatever reason you think so) it makes even some of us regulars not want to come here as often.
So what are people like JUGRNAUT really looking for? and what are they willing to do?<snip>
Well, in a way, they are like the rest of us. None of us can claim to do absolutely everything possible to improve mileage. I'm gonna drive a 3200 lb cow of a car no matter what you guys say. I'm gonna use AC. I'm not gonna EOC. I'm gonna drive my gas hog mini-SUV with very little legitimate justification. Repete could buy a Metro or Corolla or finally get a WVO car instead of just talking about it, Clench could buy a Civic Hybrid, etc. So we all drive what we are willing to drive, and want the most we can get out if it. When poop-flinging fights start, it's not long before everyone is covered in poop. Okay, I feel better. You guys are great and I hope I'm making sense.
Yeah... On a slightly related note, I'll never understand why people try to make "fast" 3500lb cars. A freikin' YZF-R1 (or equivalent) will eat 'em for breakfast, lunch, and dinner unless they're pushing ~1000rwhp, and even then, that's an expensive proposition. Probably expensive enough to buy the bike with a fraction of what they've spent modding the car. And the bike will get ~40mpg with no special treatment...
Originally Posted by FormulaTwo
I think if i could get that type of FE i would have no problem driving a dildo shaped car.