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Old 10-19-2008, 06:15 PM   #121
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I think it depends on what our economy does over the next year. If we continue to see a slowdown, gas could drop well under $2.50/gal., but if the markets stabilize any time before the election, I doubt it will go much below that.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:36 PM   #122
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Heck, 2 stations in my town went down to @2.50 today...

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Old 10-19-2008, 07:07 PM   #123
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Shows how often I refuel and actually take note of the price! But around here most stations are still over $3.
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Old 10-19-2008, 07:59 PM   #124
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The price of oil is inversely proportional to the fear that we might actually replace it as the universal transportation fuel.

At $2 per barrel extraction cost in Saudi Arabia, it could be dirt cheap, when we no longer need it.

It could happen soon, but I doubt if it could be totally replaced in less that ten years, anad it would take some serious commitments, which seem to be missing, because no one wants to jump on the wrong bandwagon, and have their hindparts handed to them on a platter.

The closer we get to eliminating the oil addiction the greater the incentive for OPEC to destroy the financial incentive to get the job done. When OPEC sees the end of their income stream expect the cartel to disintegrate into individual competitors for oil revenues, as they desperately search for customers.

It will begin with a significant breakthrough in powertrains using conventional engines. 80% increases in vehicle mileage can be achieved through powertrains that recover energy and using capacitive storage of 1000 horsepower seconds of energy storage will allow engines to operate at their highest efficiencies or not operate at all.

I believe the pathway is in hydraulic drives, with infinitely variable in wheel drive motors that operate independently. Accumulators storing hydraulic fluid will provide sufficient energy for a single 0-80 acceleration event, while allowing for engine on engine off regeneration of storage losses and recovery of close to 90% of any braking energy.

A prototype could be built within the next 8 months. If the efficiency reaches expectations, all the pieces of the puzzle are in place.

The first transitional phase after powertrain implementation will be natural gas as a fuel, then as batteries become capable of better range, it's possible the transition will continue to the electric car. It may also become a combination of both, with interchangeable systems for city and highway applications.

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Old 10-20-2008, 03:10 AM   #125
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Good point Gary. I had made a similar point a few days ago...

http://www.gassavers.org/showthread....59&#post120159

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Old 10-20-2008, 06:36 AM   #126
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Gas at 2.20 in some places here
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:57 AM   #127
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Where is here??? Good to know where the prices are low to see how the price drop travels through the states . . . and I am empty and waiting for the next bug drop before I buy more.

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Brownsville, Texas has gas around $2.17 - $2.20 right now.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:19 AM   #129
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2.699 in Amherst, MA. My roommate thinks i will drop as low as $2.00 here, but I dunno.... It has been dropping pretty fast tho.
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Update: $2.06 in San Benito, TX(about 10 miles from Brownsville). That's sick!

GasBuddy says $2.09
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