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Old 09-21-2007, 01:34 PM   #31
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Smells like a snake oil combo, biggie sized to $1000!

Lets see, acetone, hydrogen and a possible mention of an O2 sensor tweak. Only thing that may work for you is the O2 sensor tweak which can be had elsewhere for tens of dollars...
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:46 PM   #32
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Mentalic,
By what scientific principles do you base your conclusion on? The science is sound, it makes sense. This company has some innovative products. I have spoken to a professional mechanic over the phone who attended their training session, and he, as an independent mechanic, believes in it.

Read:http://www.thermo1.com/hyboost.htm

The O2 sensor tweak is done so that less fuel is injected, and hydrogen compensates for the less injected.
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:03 AM   #33
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Acetone, debunked by those who have tried it. Not enough difference to measure.

Hydrogen from water. Where do you think the energy to make the hydrogen comes from? A magic magnet? Cosmic waves? How about the ICE.. Nothing is free.

Trimming the O2 sensor to force a lean burn, that will work if done right.

Have you even read the stuff they claim on their web page? Theres some complete BS there. Conspircy of summer and winter gas? Lol!
Plenty of obvious "Ron Popeil" claims there. All they need to add is a few "Wait theres more" lines and there golden. The best salesmen always sound convincing and honest.

Good luck with it. Hope you don't damage your car.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:40 AM   #34
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Wow, Mentalic, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. You might want to read up on the technology of hydrogen assisted fuel cells. It's hard not to cringe after you embarrass yourself with your ignorant comments.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:57 AM   #35
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There are at least 3 independent businesses that offer similar mpg boosting systems. Anything cutting edge is a risk though.

Anyone can use technical sounding language and fear to "deflate" anything.

I admit that some of the links from their website lead to some pretty "hyper" areas and claims...but I do think their HAFC system is probably valid...but I have no real experience with it. I do have some experience with some of the various techniques and devices they use.

I'm very interested in what results are seen.



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Acetone, debunked by those who have tried it. Not enough difference to measure.

Hydrogen from water. Where do you think the energy to make the hydrogen comes from? A magic magnet? Cosmic waves? How about the ICE.. Nothing is free.

Trimming the O2 sensor to force a lean burn, that will work if done right.

Have you even read the stuff they claim on their web page? Theres some complete BS there. Conspircy of summer and winter gas? Lol!
Plenty of obvious "Ron Popeil" claims there. All they need to add is a few "Wait theres more" lines and there golden. The best salesmen always sound convincing and honest.

Good luck with it. Hope you don't damage your car.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:34 AM   #36
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Any thing going forward with this?
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:15 AM   #37
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Hey,
I ended up canceling my order. Basically, I am making it myself.
I know what the electronics are now, so that is easily replicated. Instead of conventional (wasteful) electrolysis, I am actually using the Stan Meyer system of generating HHO. This is far more efficient, and will do well for a physics project.
Basically he uses voltage potential, which has been generated via a resonating LC circuit, to separate the bonds of hte water within the capacitor.
I'm still in the construction stage, so It'll be a while before I get this mounted on my Honda. When it's done, I expect better results than the HAFC kit has to offer, because of greatly reduced alternator load.
These setups are several hundred percent more efficient.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:45 AM   #38
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AH! ive read about that before.. now to replicate it.. do you go on Pure Energy Systems News? Thats where i read about it and many other unbelievable and believable things. i wanna see how you do and if this works, hey, i might build one myself.
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Theres a few forums that have sections about it. Oupower.com
Overunity.com
Waterfuelcell.com
Energetic Forum

Check out this:
http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf

I have my tubes assembled, and most of the rest. Currently I am soldering the frequency generator, which will trigger the MOSFET.
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cool. that pdf gave an update to the one i downloaded previously. A few things were different.
where did you get the stainless steel tubes from? do they have them at hardware stores?
This is awesome stuff. hope it works
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