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Old 05-21-2021, 01:04 AM   #11
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We don't get the raptor/F-150 here, but the grill is very similar. My friend has just traded his in for a new one with engine mentioned and says it's much quicker than his older one with the larger engine.
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Old 05-21-2021, 05:01 AM   #12
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As you guys probably already know, Ford had discontinued almost all new passenger car sales in the US. The only new Ford cars selling in the US will be the Mustang and the GT. I've always been a Ford fan and actually own a small position. I was skeptical when they announced the end of most cars here but in the end I think it was the right decision. Their margins were terrible and the product line was worse. I test drove a Ford Fusion before I bought the Mazda and was very disappointed in the Fusion. It felt very cheap and performance was weak. I hate CVT so I guess I'm biased against most small cars that aren't stick shifts.

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Old 05-21-2021, 06:13 AM   #13
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It's odd because in Europe, fords focus and fiesta are some of the best selling cars available, both are in the top ten. I guess it's what the video says, rather than offering something that people actually want, instead they focus on convincing people it's something they need. Different market approaches over the pond.
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Old 05-23-2021, 12:48 PM   #14
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Lower gas prices makes any larger car more attractive. And then people wanted tall wagons.

We were going to get the Focus Activ, the hatchback with crossover flair, a few years ago, but the tariff nonsense at the time had Ford cancel it.
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Old 05-24-2021, 04:38 AM   #15
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I'm curious why Ford cars were selling well in Europe. Are Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai, and Kia put at some disadvantage compared to Ford there?

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Old 05-24-2021, 06:51 AM   #16
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Ford can make good cars. Some of their best were designed by the European division.


My guess with the Asian brands is that the European domestics offer more competition in the smaller car segment. It was the Americans essentially ignoring that segment here that let them establish themselves in the US.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:17 AM   #17
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The Asian brand do make some very good small cars due to over populated cities like Tokyo etc. But Europeans still demand a car that drives, performs and handles well, and whilst the Japanese brands offer fuss free reliable motoring, most are extremely dull and boring to drive. The offerings from Ford and French brands focus heavily on chassis control and handling, and on trans euro mountainous road trips, people want to enjoy the drive as well as the scenery. Asian brands are considered more of an appliance, but they're not the first word in "driver involvement".
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Old 06-01-2021, 02:30 PM   #18
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I've never had a problem buying foreign. I'm cheap, hence my name "kuripot". I buy what I think is the best deal. The F150 ford is still king in the USA though. I have one but it's almost 20 years old. The Accent served me well but I finally grew tired of driving it. I like the Mazda. I bought my wife a Honda.

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F150 is a US pride. I have been a fan since I was a kid, more specifically the Raptor. If not for fuel economy, I have chosen a Raptor. Well, my brother got one and we'll be building it as a weekend toy. Waiting for the tire mounting and alignment to finish this week and we'll ready for the off-road trip.
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